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my memory was getting fuzzy, so I looked up the transcript.

LEHRER: New question.

How would you go about, as president, deciding when it was in the national interest to use U.S. force? Generally.

BUSH: Well, if it's in our vital national interests. And that means whether or not our territory -- our territory is threatened, our people could be harmed, whether or not our alliances -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force.

Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear, whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be.

Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win, whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped.

And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy.

I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops.

The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation-building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders.

BUSH: I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.

And so I take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power.

Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years, we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places.

And, therefore, I want to rebuild the military power. It starts with a billion dollar pay raise for the men and women who wear the uniform, a billion dollars more than the president recently signed into law, to make sure our troops are well-housed and well-equipped; bonus plans to keep some of our high-skilled folks in the services; and a commander in chief who clearly sets the mission, and the mission is to fight and win war, and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.

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The man is a shameless liar. Good thing nobody sucked his cock, man then we would be in trouble. Thank God his lying has only result in a few hundred thousand people being killed and our treasury being bankrupted.



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So, what else is new?

I think all of this is too complicated for the average American today to understand. Many of the new voters this time around were Hispanic and have dreamed of the so called American dream, a dream that is what they have wanted and why they are here. They see the republicans as their way to this dream, they see democrats as representative to giving to the needy poor, not what they want to associate themselves with, and don't really understand why, or what the differences between parties are. George Bush is their hero!
I don't know about that, but I do often talk with people who have incomes of 40k or less who are ravenous Bush/Republican supporters....Somehow their zeal always turns to the "lazy minorities sucking the country dry". I wonder what these people think he's doing for them? But if he can capture the C.E.O., Hispanic AND raving racist fucktard vote, it's no wonder he won.

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raving racist fucktard vote. I like that.

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To think how lucky we are. If Bush was not the great man he is, he could have lied about getting his dick slobbered. Thank God we were not subjected to that kind of dastardly perjury. y, what do you guys think? Good thing Bush didn't lie about getting head from some fat whore, huh? Guys?


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So, what else is new?

I think all of this is too complicated for the average American today to understand. Many of the new voters this time around were Hispanic and have dreamed of the so called American dream, a dream that is what they have wanted and why they are here. They see the republicans as their way to this dream, they see democrats as representative to giving to the needy poor, not what they want to associate themselves with, and don't really understand why, or what the differences between parties are. George Bush is their hero!
hell, he speak better spanish then english... hehehe not funny tho.



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you'd get banned for that one for sure at the shop... nice! [:(]



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I don't know about that, but I do often talk with people who have incomes of 40k or less who are ravenous Bush/Republican supporters....Somehow their zeal always turns to the "lazy minorities sucking the country dry".
Of course, they are mostly uneducated, uninformed class. Or they are too damn young and naive to understand world's politics. And btw, they probably have most of their relatives serving in the military, and thus they have to support Bush. Or their brothers and sisters die for nay.

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Clinton lied.

Bush manipulated.

Maybe this is how the suckers see it.
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I don't know about that, but I do often talk with people who have incomes of 40k or less who are ravenous Bush/Republican supporters....Somehow their zeal always turns to the "lazy minorities sucking the country dry".
Of course, they are mostly uneducated, uninformed class. Or they are too damn young and naive to understand world's politics. And btw, they probably have most of their relatives serving in the military, and thus they have to support Bush. Or their brothers and sisters die for nay.
Well, you have to respect them. They just see keeping guys from sticking their dicks up each other's asses as much, much more important to the survival of this nation than worrying about our ruined economy and reputation in this world. You got to respect the gravitas in that.

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