JimSmith - 6/8/2005 10:59 PM
azimuth - 6/8/2005 2:40 AM
I haven't seen any legislation signed by black churches, but I do understand that legislation is signed by the lawmakers who were elected by members of those afore mentioned institutions. So it seems to me that the political influence excercised by those congregations at the command of the clergy and thier rattlesnake guest speakers crosses the line of the "separation of church and state" they claim others violate.....assuming the separation of such can actually be found in the constitution.
Once again we catch the left adhering to thier hypocritic oath.
Azimuth, seems something has gotten under your skin. You usually don't flagrantly make up and post bullshit. I have noted you occasionally put on an act of ignorance, which might be the case here, but it is not your typical approach to a topic like this.
To make it explicit, the religious right is objected to because they take beliefs based on the teachings of their religion and attempt to force these beliefs on others, of and not of their religion, by having these beliefs coded into the law of the land. I also believe you know chapter and verse where that is not allowed in the constitution.
When lefties appeal to the black communities and socialize with the local parish and priests, it is not by attempting enact aspects of their religion into law. It is to inform them that the lefties are looking to enact laws to force the rest of the population to uphold the Bill of Rights and other features of the Constitution that have been circumvented by practices that should never have been allowed in the first place. When the pulpit is used to make the parish aware of the issues, what you have is the reverse of the religious right approach. The leadership of the church is not attempting to have the body of law revised to comply with their religious teachings, it is attempting to make the parishioners aware the abuse they live with is wrong, and there is something they can do about it.
The social interaction of the church is typically a unifying experience. Most members of a church believe it is a place where their troubles will not be used against them. Politicians have used this feature of churches to their advantage for ages. It is only recently that pandering by politicians to the Christian right has been such a blantant grab for power. And, unfortunately, the leaders of the Christian churches seem to be unable to resist grabbing power any better than they were at grabbing little boy's asses.
Now, unfortunately, it seems even the poor are well off enough to have the energy to hate queers, and others the religious right likes to hate, so it seems the lefties are losing traction in this arena. Which also contradicts your assertion.