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Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

It amazes me that most people bought, what the "mainstream" media sold them, with no questions asked. Here's a question for all of you deep thinkers - Michael Schiavo acted on his "lawful" right to end his wife's life because he alledged that's what she said she stated, fifteen years earlier. If she could have been asked fifteen years ago this question - If you didn't die of your injuries at the time they occured, and you survived for fifteen years afterward, would you then want to be starved and dehydrated slowly to death? Ask a hundred people this question, and see if even one person says, "YES". http://www.theempirejournal.com/61053_experts_say_schiavo_injuri.htm

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Her autopsy results are forthcoming. Should be interesting... http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/1506028.htm

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RE: Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

What is your theory on JFK?
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RE: Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

I’d sign up for that. To me, 15 years is pretty slowly compared to a few days. It's also not like she was eating anything so the whole stomach pain issue you’re probably thinking about was likely void, but if you think there was pain then please support your local euthanasia advocates, someone in pain should be given the option to end their suffering on their terms. I’ve made my wishes very clear to my wife and my family that if I am in a persistent vegetative state or severely brain damaged I would want them to pull the plug. The key is to live your life in such a way that if you get hit by a truck tomorrow you have as few regrets as possible.

The problem was the assault was on the right to die and there the case is very clear. Even if she never said that it was what she wanted (because most people are too dumb to make their wishes known beforehand) she was clearly incapacitated and the rights to make the decision fell to her nearest living relative – her husband. In Florida the husband’s wishes trump the parents’ and that’s exactly what happened. If the parents felt that there was foul play involved they shouldn’t make the fight about the right to die, but to dissolve the marriage between their daughter and her husband. I don’t know Florida law on the subject, but I’m assuming that if there was enough evidence to convict the husband of attempted murder he would not have power of attorney over his brain-dead wife. Since he’s not in jail, this wasn’t the case and justice was served. If during the autopsy they find additional evidence that will allow a (re)trial then he simply gets convicted of murder instead of attempted murder. Either way, the system works.

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RE: Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

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RE: Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

What amazes me is when people listen to the "non-mainstream" media (i.e. Fox News, most AM radio, Matt Drudge, etc.) and continually accept everything they hear as truth. Hell, I work in this industry, and to hear some of the outright lies and mistruths that comes from the talk show hosts sometimes makes me sick. [xx(] But that being said, one should not listen to one side over the other. A truly intelligent person listens to both sides of the debate and then forms their own opinion. That’s the only way you can truly decipher the spin given by all of the media and find the truth.
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On average, we're all dead anyway.
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Stop being a victim.

It's my inalienable right to be a victim of the main stream media. And if you don't like it you can go back to China and sell me tote bags.
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RE: Don't be a victim of "mainstream" media.

What a fucked up web site. Look at this quote:

"According to family members and friends, there had been a pattern of domestic abuse in the relationship, possessiveness and anger allegedly demonstrated by Michael Schiavo."

As stated in an earlier thread, Michael Shiavo actually lived with the Schindler family for five or six years following her incapacition, and helped put the guy through nursing school. During the time they were married, her older brother lived upstairs from them, both facts that cast suspicion on their more recent claims that she was abused by her husband. Just use your head moron - give me one instance of logical thought that says "hey, we knew you were abusing her when you were married, she ends up in a coma, so, hey, why don't you come live with us, and we'll put you thru nursing school!" In fact, as the A&E "Investigative Reports" show exposed, the Schindler's claims of "abuse" showed up late in the game, when such claims became useful.

Also, the statement

"Her friends have testified during court proceedings that she was unhappy in her marriage to Schiavo and was allegedly contemplating a divorce from Michael Schiavo who was allegedly possessive and jealous."

is patently ridiculous. On the same show, they had both the Schindlers, and her older brother, a guy who will supposedly live upstairs listening to some guy beat the shit out of his sister and still be best friends with him, are all on tape in the first few years of her coma extolling what a wonderful son-in-law he was.

In the FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS of trials, inquests and any other type of legal proceeding pro-life lawyers could dream of, EVERY TRIAL CONCLUDED HER INJURIES WERE CONSISTENT OF SOMEONE WHO HAD THEIR CHEST THUMPED ON BY BIG EMTS TRYING TO SAVE SOMEONE IN CARDIAC ARREST.

The so called "doctor" Dr. William Hammesfahr, is a noted LIAR and FRAUD:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220009

and talk about "Mainstream media":

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220002

Dude, I have never seen anyone drink Kool-aid on an issue the way you have on this one. MILLIONS have been spent litigating this case. Get your facts straight. The facts aren't coming from MAINSTREAM MEDIA, They are coming from COURT APPOINTED EXPERTS, CORONERS, POLICE FORSENIC EXPERTS. Get a friggin CLUE!






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Just to show how utterly dumb this website is, just read this utterly moronic piece of "journalism":


Federal Judge In Schiavo Case Had Major Conflict Involving Felos


“Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely�

The life of Terri Schindler-Schiavo was in the hands of U.S. District Court Judge James Whittemore of Tampa.

And he sealed her death warrant.

In denying the request March 22 for a temporary restraining order to restore her feeding tube and thus save her life, Whittemore wrote that her parents, Mary and Bob Schindler Sr., didn’t have a substantial likelihood of success on the merits of their arguments.

However, they would have more of a likelihood of success had Whittemore disclosed his overwhelming conflict of interest in the matter that ethically prohibited him from sitting on the case.

Whittemore, who had served in the 13thCircuit Court of Hillsborough County from 1990 to 1999 ruled that “the court concludes that Terri Schiavo’s life and liberty interests were adequately protected by extensive process provided in the state courts�.

But there had been extensive conflicts of interest and improper rulings in the state courts against Terri Schiavo and her parents.

And those perverse conflict of interests extended into federal court.

Whittemore failed to disclose that one of the attorneys who had formerly represented Michael Schiavo had been a member of the judicial nominating commission which had recommended him for his judicial position on the 13th Judicial Circuit Court of Hillsborough County where he served until he was nominated by President Clinton for the Middle District of Florida in 1999 and confirmed.

Whittemore was allegedly chosen at random to hear the application of Schindlers for a temporary restraining order.
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Now tell me, what is the actual conflict of interest here - is the guy going to "unvote for him" for the judge job, a for-life position? WTF? Someone, someone please tell us all how he had a "conflict of interest" here, never mind a "major" one. A guy who voted for him on some obscure reccomendation commission FIFTEEN YEARS AGO? On a minor judgeship before Whittemore even hit the big time?

And why the darkly conspiratorial "Whittemore was allegedly chosen at random"? Federal judges have an open transparent system for being assigned at random to cases that has been in use for something like 60 years. There is nothing "alleged" about it.

And where is the "corruption"?

Thank god the Schiavo case is at least showing us all one thing - the last people in the world we want running this country are the Frist-Delay nut cases. If this piece was presented in a high school journalism class, it would get an "F".









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