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should an individual be able to wear a mask in public?http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050526/D8AAUV9GO.html

sorry, the link seems to be expired. It described a man having been arrested for wearing a grinch mask in public. Does that seem wrong to anyone else?

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Absolutely not!
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Absolutely not!
check out the Drudge report. Click on the the grich link at Drudgereport.com

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RE: first amendment right?

Here, I'll give you a push.....

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Man arrested for wearing Grinch mask

WHEELING, W.Va. - City and county attorneys are defending Wheeling police who arrested a man for wearing a Grinch mask while walking along a city street.

Norman Eugene Gray, 42, was arrested Tuesday. He was arraigned and released on a personal recognizance bond.

Officers saw Gray about 8:45 a.m. Tuesday, told him to take the mask off and not put it on again. Gray removed it and asked why he could not wear it, according to Wheeling police reports. Officers told him wearing masks in public is illegal.

Gray said he felt he had a right to wear it and said it was not illegal. He put the mask back on and was arrested. The mask was confiscated.

Wheeling City Solicitor Rosemary Humway-Warmuth and Ohio County Prosecutor Scott Smith said masks as well as dark window tinting in vehicles can pose a safety hazard to law enforcement officers and hinder efforts to identify criminal suspects.

"When we think about masks, we don't always think of Halloween," Humway-Warmuth said.

Smith said wearing a mask or hood in public is a misdemeanor under state law, punishable by a fine of up to $500 or up to a year in jail, or both. Children up to 16 years old can wear masks. Traditional Halloween masks, safety gear used in occupations, theatrical productions, civil defense or protection from bad weather also are legal.

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RE: first amendment right?

Sure, especially in banks and liquor stores. What's the beef?

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Sure, especially in banks and liquor stores. What's the beef?

Holy Christ he's right!!






The Constitution of the United States of America



First Amendment--Religion and Expression



[[Page 965]]


FIRST AMENDMENT

__________

RELIGION AND EXPRESSION

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CONTENTS

Right to wear a grinch mask in banks and liqour stores.... 969 Page
Religion.......................................... ........ 969
An Overview.......................................... ..... 969
Scholarly Commentary.............................. 970
Court Tests Applied to Legislation Affecting
Religion...................................... 972
Government Neutrality in Religious Disputes....... 974
Establishment of Religion................................. 977
Financial Assistance to Church-Related
Institutions.................................. 977
Governmental Encouragement of Religion in Public
Schools: Released Time........................ 991
Governmental Encouragement of Religion in Public
Schools: Prayers and Bible Reading............ 993
Governmental Encouragement of Religion in Public
Schools: Curriculum Restriction............... 996
Access of Religious Groups to School Property..... 997
Tax Exemptions of Religious Property.............. 997
Exemption of Religious Organizations from
Generally Applicable Laws..................... 999
Sunday Closing Laws............................... 999
Conscientious Objection........................... 1000
Regulation of Religious Solicitation.............. 1001
Religion in Governmental Observances.............. 1002
Miscellaneous..................................... 1004
Free Exercise of Religion................................. 1005
The Belief-Conduct Distinction.................... 1007
The Mormon Cases.................................. 1009
The Jehovah's Witnesses Cases..................... 1010
Free Exercise Exemption from General Governmental
Requirements.................................. 1011
Religious Test Oaths.............................. 1019
Religious Disqualification........................ 1019
Freedom of Expression--Speech and Press................... 1020
Adoption and Common Law Background........................ 1020
Freedom of Expression: The Philosophical Basis............ 1025
Freedom of Expression: Is There a Difference Between
Speech and Press...................................... 1026
The Doctrine of Prior Restraint........................... 1029
Injunctions and the Press in Fair Trial Cases..... 1031
Obscenity and Prior Restraint..................... 1033

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Here, I'll give you a push.....

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Man arrested for wearing Grinch mask

WHEELING, W.Va. - City and county attorneys are defending Wheeling police who arrested a man for wearing a Grinch mask while walking along a city street.

Norman Eugene Gray, 42, was arrested Tuesday. He was arraigned and released on a personal recognizance bond.

Officers saw Gray about 8:45 a.m. Tuesday, told him to take the mask off and not put it on again. Gray removed it and asked why he could not wear it, according to Wheeling police reports. Officers told him wearing masks in public is illegal.

Gray said he felt he had a right to wear it and said it was not illegal. He put the mask back on and was arrested. The mask was confiscated.

Wheeling City Solicitor Rosemary Humway-Warmuth and Ohio County Prosecutor Scott Smith said masks as well as dark window tinting in vehicles can pose a safety hazard to law enforcement officers and hinder efforts to identify criminal suspects.

"When we think about masks, we don't always think of Halloween," Humway-Warmuth said.

Smith said wearing a mask or hood in public is a misdemeanor under state law, punishable by a fine of up to $500 or up to a year in jail, or both. Children up to 16 years old can wear masks. Traditional Halloween masks, safety gear used in occupations, theatrical productions, civil defense or protection from bad weather also are legal.
Okay G, how'd you do that?

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RE: first amendment right?

Hey dude -- well it's like this. I went to http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&gl=us and entered "grinch mask" as a search term.

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RE: first amendment right?

Ok, let me get this through my thick towel around my head. You guys have a first right law and it was amended, is that why you call it first amendment right?
Ok, let me guess, if that's the case then the law must have offered much more when it was first written then it must have shrunk or is it the other way around?
Now, what about the mask? say I came to your country wearing what I wear every day. That is a long robe (called a thowb)and a headgear (what you guys call a towel) would I be arrested, shot at, mocked? would I have a first amendment right that a policeman can enforce? or will he throw me in jail while he is at it?
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RE: first amendment right?

Arrested, possibly; shot at, mocked - you can count on it.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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