ThrillKill - 5/27/2005 2:57 PM
I'm confident the A.C.L.U. will sort it all out. By the by.....Just to throw this out there. Why in God's name should we expect the average Christian foot soldier or prison guard to understand a Muslim's veneration of a book?
Be careful not to fall for the guys directly imposing the objectionable conditions being an "average Christian foot soldier or prison guard" as the administration would have you assume. These people are trained to impose unacceptably stressful situations on people to get them to cooperate in order to make the stress go away. These people knew full well the effect of their actions, and if they did not know it ahead of time with regard to the venerated Muslim's book, well, they learned it "on the job" and repeated the treatment.
Those involved in the photos of the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal were just the ones dumb enough to let someone take some photos of them in very hard to refute conditions at a later date. It looks a lot like a set up - perfect alibi for the guy doing the dirty work - no photos of him or her, and we have the culprits right here in these photos, so why look elsewhere, like the Oval Office where the policy was invented?
Be cautious in what you believe on this subject. Who lets people bring cameras to work? Certainly no defense contractors working on anything sensitive, and certainly no other manufacturing or engineering people working on anything of value to their employer.
No, the guys doing this stuff are not fresh off the farm. I see we are stopping short of admitting anyone flushed a Muslim holy book down the shitter because there is no tangible evidence. Has anyone defined what "tangible evidence" might be for this step? Has anyone searched through the septic/sewage system for pages from the Koran?
Your other point, asking why the Muslims get so easily agitated to violence against, aparently, anyone over such offenses is hard to understand. I attribute that difficulty on my part to a cultural difference that I cannot hope to understand. But I do not assume because the Muslim response is different than mine that I am right and they are wrong.
Their culture is different. We have been "consorting" with people from the Mid East for a century, we should know better. We do. The offenses were carried out on purpose for an effect no one thought would be more than a local event, hopefully a breaking down of a suspect's resistance to giving up his suspected connections to Osamma or the like. We failed to consider what other effects might result. In the end, they killed each other in the violence that erupted, so we still don't really care about this subject, do we? It seems that way. I have yet to hear the administration fess up to having a problem, or to suggest they were a little quick to condemn Newsweek. I do not see Americans demanding any action either. Just like crime in the ghettos. Who outside the ghettos really cares if they dope and kill each other? Jim