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Nine more Americans were murdered by the Republican Party's illegal war in Iraq:


Nine American troops killed in 24 Hours in Iraq
Militant Web sites say al-Zarqawi wounded
Tuesday, May 24, 2005 Posted: 2:10 PM EDT (1810 GMT)


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Insurgent attacks during the past 24 hours have killed nine U.S. troops in Iraq, the military said Tuesday.

Three soldiers died in a car bombing in central Baghdad on Tuesday and a fourth -- who was manning an observation post -- was killed by a drive-by gunman, Task Force Baghdad spokesman, Maj. Darryl Wright said.

Four other American soldiers were killed by a bomb on Monday, the military said. They were assigned to the 155th Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force.

The explosive "detonated near their vehicle" in fighting in Haswa, south of Baghdad.

A ninth American -- a Marine -- died Monday after an "indirect fire attack" on Camp Blue Diamond in Ramadi, the Marines said.

The deaths bring the number of U.S. troops killed in the Iraq war to 1,643, according to U.S. military reports.

Two significant developments surfaced Tuesday regarding the Iraqi insurgency.

Several Islamist militant Web sites reported that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- the Iraq's Jordanian-born insurgent leader -- has been wounded.

The announcement -- which could not be independently verified -- is attributed to militant Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, who has posted messages regarding al Qaeda in the past.

It said that al-Zarqawi's comrades are proud of what they described as his heroic wounds and threatens that the "resistance will get tougher" as U.S.-led attacks on insurgents intensify.

The message also asks for "prayers for our leader." (Full story)

Also Tuesday, the U.S. military announced that a "Ramadi-based insurgent leader" was taken into custody.

Muhammad Daham Abd Hamadi was captured after Iraqi citizens led multinational forces to his location in Baghdad, the military said.

Daham leads the al-Naman Brigade, the military said, and he has links to insurgents leaders -- possibly al-Zarqawi's network.

"Daham is responsible for numerous attacks against coalition and Iraqi forces and has provided weapons, funds and foreign fighters to numerous small cells operating under his control," the military said. "He has been linked to several kidnappings in the Ramadi area. Daham and his organization kidnap local businessmen and governmental officials to fund terrorist operations."

Other developments

A car bomb exploded Tuesday near an Iraqi police convoy in eastern Baghdad, killing two civilians and wounding eight others in the Karrada neighborhood around a corner from a girls' school, police said.


In northeastern Mosul on Tuesday, a member of Iraqi civil defense died after a bomb he was trying to defuse detonated, a spokesman for the region's Joint Coordination Center said. Four others were wounded in the blast.


Gunmen Tuesday kidnapped Nassir Sa'ed Al-Sayfi, an employee of Oman's embassy in Baghdad, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said Tuesday. "He was kidnapped from his house by unknown gunmen in a black BMW," the ministry said.


Heading into the third day of a wide-ranging offensive against insurgents in western Baghdad, Iraqi security forces working with the U.S. Army have detained more than 400 "suspected terrorists" during Operation Squeeze Play, a military statement said Tuesday.


Attorneys for U.S. Army Pfc. Lynndie England, once called the "poster child" of Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, waived her right to a preliminary hearing Tuesday. The move allows the Army to proceed to a full court-martial unless her attorneys are able to strike a new plea deal with prosecutors. Because the judge in her case threw out an earlier plea deal, England faces a maximum 11 years in a military prison on charges that include conspiracy, maltreatment of Iraqi detainees, and sexual indecency for her actions at Abu Ghraib. (Full story)


The Iraqi government on Tuesday announced a $200,000 reward for information leading to the capture of Ahmed Hassan Kaka al-Ubaidi, a former Saddam Hussein regime official suspected of involvement in police killings, oil pipeline sabotage, terror operations in northern Iraq, and traveling to Syria to bolster the insurgency.


Shiite Muslim sheikh Hummam Hammoudi has been chosen to head a 55-member panel in charge of drafting a new Iraqi constitution, the transitional National Assembly said Tuesday. A constitution must be drafted by August 15 and is to be placed before voters in a referendum this year. Hammoudi is an aide to Abdul Aziz al-Hakim of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq and a member of the United Iraqi Alliance, the Shiite-led coalition that received the most votes in the January 30 general election.

CNN's Octavia Nasr, Arwa Damon, Enes Dulami, Kevin Flower and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.


Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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IMPORTANT NEWS! IRAQ TO INVADE BAGHDAD!


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Updated: 10:00 p.m. ET May 26, 2005BAGHDAD, Iraq - Two U.S. soldiers were killed in Iraq when their helicopter crashed after being shot at north of Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a statement on Friday.


“Two Task Force Liberty soldiers were killed when their helicopter crashed near Baquba on May 26,� the statement said. It said two helicopters came under small arms fire near Baquba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.

One crashed while the other, an OH-58 Kiowa, landed safely at a U.S. base after sustaining damage, the statement said.

The Kiowa, with a crew of two, is an armed reconnaissance helicopter that entered service with the U.S. Army in 1986. Task Force Liberty, under the command of the 42nd Infantry Division, has headquarters in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit.

Troops to encircle Baghdad
The government said earlier Thursday that a security cordon of 40,000 Iraqi soldiers and police will ring Baghdad starting next week in what it dubbed Operation Lightning, aimed at halting a spree of insurgent violence that has killed more than 620 people this month.

In other news, the interior minister said his office believes militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was wounded, while an Internet statement claimed that Iraq’s most feared terrorist group had appointed a deputy to fill in for the Jordanian.


Iraqi leader: Not ready for U.S. withdrawal

At least 15 Iraqis died in violence nationwide, including a child killed during clashes between U.S. forces and insurgents in the northern city of Tal Afar. Among the dead were a university professor, slain in a drive-by shooting in Baghdad, and three policemen killed in a car bombing in the capital.

The military also said a U.S. Marine died of wounds sustained a day earlier during the launch of an anti-insurgent offensive involving about 1,000 U.S. troops in the western city of Haditha.

"Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari said he could not give a firm date for the withdrawal of about 160,000 foreign troops, including 138,000 from the United States, because Iraq’s police and army were not yet ready to take control of security.

“It is not our desire to have troops here,� he told reporters over afternoon tea. “No country wants foreign troops on its soil. We want to see them leave, but the security of our country is the most important thing.�

Operation Lightning will involve about a quarter of the 165,200 Iraqis estimated by the Pentagon to be part of police and military forces. It will be followed by similar anti-terrorism moves across the country, part of an effort to shift the government stance toward the insurgency from a defensive to an offensive position, said Interior Minister Bayan Jabr and Defense Minister Saadoun al-Duleimi.

“We will establish, with God’s help, an impenetrable blockade surrounding Baghdad like a bracelet surrounds a wrist,� al-Duleimi said. “With God’s help and the support of those who believe in their cause and defeating terrorism and fundamentalists, they will not allow anyone to break this cordon.�

Jabr said there would be 675 fixed checkpoints, plus mobile ones, to try to deter assailants in areas where attacks are frequent and cars are often booby-trapped.

'Unprecedented security'
“You will witness unprecedented security measures and none familiar to you,� he said. “We have to work together, government and people, because security is for all the citizens, not just the government.�

The ministers said Baghdad would be divided into two sectors and 15 districts where police and emergency personnel would operate 24 hours a day.

“We will stand against anyone who tries to kill Iraqis and we will impose the law by adopting all tough measures,� Jabr said.

“We do believe that we are going to give Iraqis what they have lacked,� al-Duleimi said, an apparent reference to the poor security in Iraq since the collapse of Saddam Hussein’s regime.

The latest statements concerning al-Zarqawi follow recent rumors and claims he had been wounded, possibly by a bullet in the lung, or perhaps even had died.


Jabr told reporters he has information that al-Zarqawi was, indeed, wounded, but he wasn’t sure how seriously. “We are not sure whether he is dead or not, but we are sure that he is injured,� he said.

An Internet statement claimed the al-Qaida in Iraq terrorist group had appointed a temporary replacement for al-Zarqawi. The statement was quickly denied in another Web site claim that disputed Abu Hafs al-Gerni had taken over.

The authenticity of either Internet statement could not be verified, although the second — denying any deputy had been appointed — was posted in the name of the person who usually handles the group’s Web site claims and announcements.

Wednesday’s first statement identified al-Gerni as “deputy of the holy warriors,� saying he was “known for carrying out the hardest operations, and our sheik would choose him and his group for the tough operations.�

But the Web site statement signed in the name of al-Qaida in Iraq’s so-called spokesman, Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, denied the group had appointed al-Gerni “or anyone by any other name.�

Experts on Islamic militants told The Associated Press that al-Gerni, a Saudi, has been al-Zarqawi’s military adviser and is the emir, or prince — as senior commanders are called — of the military committee of al-Qaida in Iraq.

A car bomb exploded in northern Baghdad near a police patrol, killing five people — three officers and two other Iraqis — and wounding 17, according to police Lt. Haider Hussein and medic Naseer Hashim of Nour Hospital.

Unknown gunmen shot dead Iraqi army Capt. Awas Youssif Hassan in Khalis area east of Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad. said army Col. Abdulla al-Shimary.

Drive-by shooting
Separately, gunmen in a speeding car fired automatic weapons at a group of people driving to work in Baghdad’s southern Risala neighborhood, killing four Iraqis, including a university professor and a translator working for the U.S. military, said police Lt. Hussam Noori.

A top Industry Ministry official, Samir Nima Ghaidan, was shot to death by gunmen while leaving his office in northern Baghdad, said army Capt. Hussein Hakim. Ghaidan ran the ministry’s transport department.

Iraqi security forces and Iraqis working with coalition forces have been repeatedly attacked by insurgents determined to bring down the country’s U.S.-backed government.

A minibus packed with passengers came under gunfire in southeastern Baghdad, leaving three people dead, including two brothers, and four wounded, said police Sgt. Najim Aboud. A U.S. military official said he had heard of the report and an investigation was under way.

More than 1,000 U.S. troops continued a sweep through Haditha, 140 miles northwest of Baghdad in the troubled Anbar province, for insurgents responsible for multiple attacks against coalition troops.

A child was killed when a mortar landed on his home Wednesday, the military added.

The offensive, the second on a road to Damascus in less than a month, was aimed at uprooting insurgents who have killed more than 620 people since a new Iraqi government was announced April 28.

Child killed
Another Iraqi child was killed Thursday during clashes between U.S. forces and insurgents in northern city of Tal Afar, 93 miles east of the Syrian border.

Tal Afar has been the scene of clashes since two explosions late Monday killed at least 20 people. Iraqi security forces closed access to the town and residents have said U.S. forces backed by helicopters have since been clashing with insurgents.

Salih Haider Qado, director of Tal Afar hospital, said two children — one about a month old and another about a year old — were killed in fighting Wednesday, while four civilians were wounded.

It was unclear if the two incidents were related.

Last year, a nearly two-week siege of Tal Afar by U.S.-led forces targeted foreign fighters holed up in the city, which is astride a smuggling route to Syria.

Mosul police Brig. Saed Ahmed said six militants were also killed, 20 injured and 26 suspected insurgents arrested in a clash with U.S. and Iraqi troops Wednesday in the northern city.

Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this r

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Helicopter downed by small arms fire in Iraq
Friday, May 27, 2005 Posted: 9:08 AM EDT (1308 GMT)


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two U.S. soldiers were killed Thursday night when their helicopter went down near Baquba, 40 miles northeast of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

Their OH-58 Kiowa chopper was flying alongside a second helicopter when they received small arms fire from the ground. The second chopper managed to get to a coalition base safely, but was damaged, the military said.

The shootdown came on the day Iraqi ministers announced a new security plan for Baghdad to fight the insurgency.

And there were conflicting reports on whether insurgent leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was wounded.

"We are not quite sure if he is alive or dead," said Interior Minister Baqir Jabbur, citing information on al-Zarqawi's injuries the government received several days ago.

But Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari later said the government didn't have anything accurate on al-Zarqawi's status.

Al-Zarqawi, the most-wanted man in Iraq, is blamed for bombings and kidnappings throughout the country. The United States is offering a $25 million reward for information leading to his capture.

Following a Baghdad news conference, Jabbur confirmed to CNN that al-Zarqawi had been hurt: "Yes, it is true he has been wounded."

Several Islamist Web sites reported this week that al-Zarqawi had been wounded and asked supporters to offer prayers for the militant.

In an analysis of one posting, CNN's senior editor for Arab affairs said the author "doesn't go into the seriousness of the injuries."

"If indeed there is an injury, the injury is serious enough for the group to be inclined to announce it publicly so that in case of death, it won't be a total shock," Octavia Nasr said earlier this week.

The message "could be just a prelude to announcing something even more serious," she said. (Full story)

Last year, al-Zarqawi pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, who later praised the insurgent's work against American troops in Iraq.

At the Pentagon, U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Carter Ham said Thursday that he could not corroborate reports about the insurgent leader's possible injuries and sought to downplay such a development.

"While al-Zarqawi is an important character, his organization is bigger than just one guy," Ham said. "His demise, whether he is captured, which would be preferable, or if he is killed or wounded, that would not cause al Qaeda in Iraq to cease to function."

40,000 troops to patrol capital
At Thursday's briefing, Jabbur and Defense Minister Sadoun al-Dulaimi also announced a plan to bolster security in Baghdad and combat the insurgency.

More than 40,000 security personnel will be stationed in the capital of 6 million people.

"We will not allow murderers and terrorists and extremists to shed Iraqi blood," al-Dulaimi said. "We will stand up to them."

Beginning next week, Baghdad will be divided into quadrants for soldiers and police to patrol, the ministers said. Authorities will set up security cordons and checkpoints throughout the city, the officials said, adding that raids will be conducted when required.

Anti-insurgent operations also are planned for other cities in Iraq, which remains under a state of emergency except for the Kurdish region in the north.

Jabbur said mosques that harbor terrorists and weapons caches will be raided. Al-Dulaimi issued a ban on such raids last week.

Pinpointed operation
The U.S. military said it's nabbed 21 suspected insurgents in Baghdad, Mosul and Tal Afar.

Among the 11 arrested during a raid in Baghdad early Thursday were two men described as "specifically targeted suspects."

The military identified one as a police officer who served under Saddam Hussein and is "thought to be involved in terror cells."

The military says the suspected insurgent scouts roads "for coalition convoys, then initiates and participates in attacks against them."

The other detainee "is thought to be involved with a terror cell that assassinates or kidnaps Iraqis" who work with the army, police or coalition forces, the military said.

Two raids around Mosul brought in nine more suspected terrorists; the remaining person was captured in Tal Afar.

Also Thursday, multinational forces from Task Force Freedom said soldiers took into custody six suspected terrorists south of Mosul and one in a raid in Tal Afar.

Another raid in western Mosul netted three suspected terrorists, the military said.

Meanwhile, insurgents killed a local police chief and two police officers at Mosul University, authorities said. Miklif Mussa was the police chief of nearby al Sharqat.

Other developments

The U.S. military said authorities are searching for three detainees who escaped from Abu Ghraib prison before sunrise Thursday. Forces discovered "two holes in the compound fence," a military statement said.


At least 10 people died in a series of attacks Thursday in the Iraqi capital, police said. Gunmen killed six people in three separate attacks: a college professor and three bodyguards; a Shiite restaurant owner; and Thamir Ni'ma Ghaydan, an Industry Ministry official. A member of the Shiite party al-Dawa, Fakri Abed al-Amri, was knifed to death, and a suicide bomb in a taxi killed two police officers and a civilian and wounded six others, police said.


An Iraqi child died Thursday during a shootout between insurgents and coalition forces in northern Iraq's Tal Afar, the U.S. military said. The military said insurgents used the child as a shield.


U.S. and Iraqi forces involved in an offensive in the western city of Haditha have detained five suspected insurgents, the U.S. Marines said Thursday. One Marine died and at least 10 insurgents were killed Wednesday, the first day of Operation New Market. Since the start of the war, 1,649 U.S. forces have died in Iraq.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Oh, "international law". To me, that is an oxymoronic phrase. I think what we mean by "international law" is agreed-upon relationships between sovereign liberal democracies. In other words, I suspect that if we asked the Cuba, China, N. Korea, Rwanda, Vietnam, Cambodea, Mozambique, Sudan, Libya, Iran, Khazakstan, etc to derive a set of laws for international behavior, you would have a different set. Wouldn't you suppose?

And who enforces this 'law'? The EU? Oh my, that should scare the heck out of N Korea, huh?

By whose standards should we abide, our own, with its gaurantees of liberty, rule of law, and constitutional popular government, or some other entity not responsible to the laws or constitution or people of this country?

So if the people, through their elected gov, decide on a course of action in international affairs, I am not especially going to give a damned about other folks. Citizens who disagree can change the government, which will change the course of government.

Other folks can help, get out of the way, submit, or stand on the sidelines and wring their hands.

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Considering that we wrote most of the international law, you think we should not observe it? Kirk's statement might be "simplistic" but it cuts to the chase. You are saying the same thing, just being coy and elitist.
I have no idea who wrote most of international law. I'd hazard a guess that most of it derives from Roman law, European codes of chivalry, and European maritime law. (Rather Eurocentric. I wonder what it would have been like had say, countries from Tajikistan to Manchuria played the key roles).

Since the USA wasn't an interesting player internationally until after WWI, I doubt our influence on international law extends much before our earliest international achievement: invention of that pinnacle of ineffectual law, the "League of Nations".

I may be wrong.

And you obey your puppetmasters.
I'm in a quandary here. I know you cannot possibly so stupid as to maintain you don't know who wrote "most of international law", but you write like you've really given it some thought, in reality just being completely obtuse. So what are you really trying to say?
You're a fucking cunt.
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...your puerile responses are a f@#king embarassment.
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...your puerile responses are a f@#king embarassment.
As long as folks don't call me a liar I'll try to treat them as I wish to be treated.

That which has no sense of honor deserves none.
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...I'll be sure to just imply that you're a liar then. Wouldn't want to double the embarassment factor around here.
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...I'll be sure to just imply that you're a liar then. Wouldn't want to double the embarassment factor around here.
I'll try to remember to reply with appropriate innuendo.
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...I'd consider innuendo to be a vast improvement.
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