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Most people in the (and supporing the) current government oppose globalism and an entity that would govern the world. Are we saying that these people would like to rule the world? In opposition to their own beliefs? That's absurd!

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The war in Iraq was not prosecuted in the best interests of the citizens of the USA. It was done for the best interests of multi-national corporations which have already taken control of the US government. The US government does not represent the best interests of the citizens. It has morphed into a big ugly hog that gets its slop at the trough of the multi-nationals.

Don't blame us, we don't like it any more than the rest of the world does. We can't vote them out, they control the elections.

Where is there a country that has one set of laws that applies equally to everyone and where the citizens actually have a say in the policies and affairs of their government? It is not here any longer.
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when you get past the denial stage you will understand that what your exhaulted leader Bill Clinton is the one who was not acting in the best interests of the USA but allowing the despot to ignore the Cease fire agreements time after time...

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I don't think this development should come as any surprise. It is precisely what the imperialist neo-cons did with Iraq. They wrote up their plans to gain control of those parts of the world important to US dominance in the Project for the New American Century. They successfully carried out these plans in the Iraq war. Why wouldn't they continue on the same path using the departments of government that they now control?
They've learned that they can successfully manipulate the US public with lies that frighten and stir people into a patriotic religious fervor. No need to deviate from their course.
Explain the DNC's total mind control of 48% of the population....

Hell if the DNC said Bill Clinton was Christ returned they would believe it.

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Most people in the (and supporing the) current government oppose globalism and an entity that would govern the world. Are we saying that these people would like to rule the world? In opposition to their own beliefs? That's absurd!
Are you suggesting the ideology of the Neo-Cons is not to dominate the world? Their own writings indicate that is precisely what they want to do. They oppose the UN governing the world, because it would usurp their own plans.
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Most people in the (and supporing the) current government oppose globalism and an entity that would govern the world. Are we saying that these people would like to rule the world? In opposition to their own beliefs? That's absurd!
Are you suggesting the ideology of the Neo-Cons is not to dominate the world? Their own writings indicate that is precisely what they want to do. They oppose the UN governing the world, because it would usurp their own plans.
I am suggesting that no one seems to see and/or expose this as an incongruency. Your post, substantiated, would show that this apparent incongruence is not a paradoxical approach on the Neo-Cons' part.

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Most people in the (and supporing the) current government oppose globalism and an entity that would govern the world. Are we saying that these people would like to rule the world? In opposition to their own beliefs? That's absurd!
Are you suggesting the ideology of the Neo-Cons is not to dominate the world? Their own writings indicate that is precisely what they want to do. They oppose the UN governing the world, because it would usurp their own plans.
Oh...the UN running the world is such a liberal concept.....hell look at the oil for food program....what a bunch of upstanding ethical people that bunch is...

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Oh...the UN running the world is such a liberal concept.....hell look at the oil for food program....what a bunch of upstanding ethical people that bunch is...
I think there are some upstanding, ethical people from Houston, TX that have been indicted. See below:

3 Indicted in U.N. Oil-for-Food Scandal
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By Liza Porteus

NEW YORK — A Texas businessman is one of three people who were indicted Thursday as part of the U.N.'s Oil-for-Food (search) scandal.

David B. Chalmers (search), head of Texas-based Bayoil (search), which participated in oil deals through the program, is the sole American among the three and is expected in federal court later on Thursday.

Chalmers and Bulgarian citizen and permanent U.S. resident Ludmil Dionissiev were arrested Thursday morning at their homes in Houston. U.S. Attorney David N. Kelley said he will seek the extradition from England of a third defendant, John Irving.

The three men are being slapped with charges involving an alleged scheme to pay millions of dollars in secret kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime so Bayoil and another Chalmers company, Bayoil Supply & Trading Limited, based in Nassau, Bahamas, could continue to sell Iraqi oil under the Oil-for-Food program.

Federal prosecutors charge that Bayoil executives helped divert funds that were supposed to go to needy Iraqis but instead were funneled to front companies set up by Saddam's regime between mid-2000 and March 2003.

Authorities also unsealed a criminal complaint that charges a South Korean citizen, Tongsun Park, with conspiracy to act in the United States as an unregistered government agent for the Iraqi government's effort to create the Oil-for-Food program.

Sounds to me like a good fast buck scheme is as appealing to Americans as it is to anyone else. Pointing to the UN over this is not much more than pointing in the mirror. Find another UN screw up to get yourself in a frenzy over. This one seems to be too good to have left the whole thing to UN officials. JIm
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Oh...the UN running the world is such a liberal concept.....hell look at the oil for food program....what a bunch of upstanding ethical people that bunch is...
I think there are some upstanding, ethical people from Houston, TX that have been indicted. See below:

3 Indicted in U.N. Oil-for-Food Scandal
Friday, April 15, 2005
By Liza Porteus

NEW YORK — A Texas businessman is one of three people who were indicted Thursday as part of the U.N.'s Oil-for-Food (search) scandal.

David B. Chalmers (search), head of Texas-based Bayoil (search), which participated in oil deals through the program, is the sole American among the three and is expected in federal court later on Thursday.

Chalmers and Bulgarian citizen and permanent U.S. resident Ludmil Dionissiev were arrested Thursday morning at their homes in Houston. U.S. Attorney David N. Kelley said he will seek the extradition from England of a third defendant, John Irving.

The three men are being slapped with charges involving an alleged scheme to pay millions of dollars in secret kickbacks to Saddam Hussein's regime so Bayoil and another Chalmers company, Bayoil Supply & Trading Limited, based in Nassau, Bahamas, could continue to sell Iraqi oil under the Oil-for-Food program.

Federal prosecutors charge that Bayoil executives helped divert funds that were supposed to go to needy Iraqis but instead were funneled to front companies set up by Saddam's regime between mid-2000 and March 2003.

Authorities also unsealed a criminal complaint that charges a South Korean citizen, Tongsun Park, with conspiracy to act in the United States as an unregistered government agent for the Iraqi government's effort to create the Oil-for-Food program.

Sounds to me like a good fast buck scheme is as appealing to Americans as it is to anyone else. Pointing to the UN over this is not much more than pointing in the mirror. Find another UN screw up to get yourself in a frenzy over. This one seems to be too good to have left the whole thing to UN officials. JIm
Hey...any and everyone involved in that needs to do time.....problem is you wanna bet the biggest players get off scot free claiming diplomatic immunity.

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