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RE: Is it wrong for the USA to be militaristic?
Botnst - 4/18/2005 10:53 PM
Brian Carlton - 4/18/2005 8:15 PM
Botnst - 4/18/2005 5:31 PM
kvining - 4/18/2005 9:58 AM
The United States is the most violent society that has ever existed in the history of the planet.
No kidding? I don't think violent means militaristic, and by what measure to you assert we are the most violent in human history?
He knows better than that. He's just trolling today.
I'm serious, here. I disagree and I think we can troll-up stats to back me up. I say that unjust, violent death is the proper index of violence-prone society? You cool with that definition?
If that's the case, We have a looooong way to go to catch up to Lenin, nevermind Joe Stalin and his merry men. Heck, we can't even hold a candle to Pol Pot. We have a lot of murdering to do to get into the major leagues. I'll bet we can find great internet lists comparing the most violent regimes and I'll bet we don't even rate the top 20.
So what happened to the 25 million Indians who were in the Western US in 1860? Seen much of them lately? Those big Indian cities out west, are they beautiful or what? And what of the estimated 1 million casualties of the Vietnam War? Or the untold thousands slaughtered in the Phillipes, Central America and the Carribean at the turn of the century? And now Iraq. We are a society that solves its problems thru violence. We kill Iraqi children in their beds for a barrel of oil. We send our own sons and daughters to their deaths in wars no one but the wealthy even knows the reasons for, in Korea, Vietnam, Nicaraugua and now Iraq. We are worse than bloodthirsty butchers, because we delude ourselves into thinking our bloodthirsty butchery is somehow moral and right.
Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.
-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address