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well, perhaps the most humane thing to do for our death row convicts is to put them down by starvation. If, according to the above article, it aint so bad to die that way then hey, we save on the cost of administering a lethal injection and all that that entails and as an added bonus, for no extra cost, we save on the last meal and the hands that prepare it. But wait, if we do 'em right now we get the pleasure of watching 'em die slowly; all the while quelling our guilty consciences with soothing thoughts of how euphoric it must be for them. How kind.

Perhaps we could find other members of society that would benefit from a little starvation therapy......hmmm......how about all those pesky poor people and druggies? They haven't much for which to live. Let's offer our services to them too!



The above article is crafted to make anyone who might be anguishing over whether Terry Sciavo is suffering to death, feel better and turn thier attention elsewhere. If she is a veggie, as some say, it doesn't matter. She's not feeling it. If she is feeling the agony, as this article seems to imply by feeling the need to salve our acing hearts, then she is being murdered in super slo-mo.
The reason they resort to starvation is because of the way the law is written. If they give her a sweet morphine send off, they have committed an act of homicide under our laws. If they remove "extraordinary means of life support", she legally dies a natural death. Those who think it is cruel should lobby to give the rest of us the right to have one final good buzz into the heavenly hereafter.

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Two things I don't understand.
1) Since there is no written documentation, why is mere hearsay admissible as evidence in court? ( and don't say "because the courts have so ruled"--its still bizarre.)
2) It is a bit disconcerting to hear so many people who seem to be cheering for her death. Doesn't that seem odd?

I think the republican argument to more on the side of defending the defenseless than it is a federal/ state argument. You guys who call this a "personal" decision, I think are missing a point--we are opening the door to ending all unwanted/inconvienient life.
We are not opening the door to anything. People make these decisions all the time. As far as hearsay, I was not in the courtroom for the 23 trials these people have had. I am not stupid. Any situation that receives that kind of scrutiny from that many people is not going to end with some casual decision. As I stated before, MSNBC ran an investigative report on who is financing these millions of dollars in legal fees for the Schindlers, and found that TWENTY TO THIRTY attorneys have been working on this case for the Schindlers, all financed by right wing interests who think the case is a vehicle for harming the democrats. Do you really, really, think at this point no legal stone has been left unturned? The problem these people have had are not the result of any new ground being broken, it is the EXISTING LAW. If you don't like it, move to Florida and try to change it. Good luck getting a state full of old couples to give up their rights to deal with each other's final wishes.

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Steak, anyone? [:D]

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Just a potato, please. Chives, sour cream, a little butta.
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I got suckered into reading this thread again. I thought SKLASSE-8 came out of hiding and I was hoping to hear his rationale for disappearing. No such luck. Still on the self imposed bannishment to where ever he sent himself. While his belief in his cause likely hasn't been diminished, this example has apparently lost its shine for him to the point where joining the banter on any subject is no longer attractive. Having been shouted down a number of times myself, it is not the end of the world. Jim
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I am telling you guys, it is the 7 finger pork chop at Perry's in Sugarland! Forget that beef stuff. Jim
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