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He got it backwards.[:D]

Greed vs. Compassion
Authoritarianism vs. Egalitarianism

You, Bot, seem to be a strong supporter of Egalitarianism, in seeming contradiction to your conservative background.[:D]
If by egalitarianism you mean an assumption of equal standing in law, then I am egalitarian. If by egalitarianism you mean equal standing in outcome, then I am not--I am a meritocrat.
Egalitarian is "advocating full political and social equality for all people" AFAIK.

Your statement on the other thread:

"My response is that I assume that all men are created equal. I make no exception. Even a brainless microcephalic is still a human and deserving of human consideration. No more, no less. I do not believe in protected classes. I think that is exactly anathema to my first sentence. When we make politics out of exceptionalism, we create a society in which all people are equal but some are more equal than others. That is the first step to enslavement, whether from the right or left, I don't give a damn."

My premise is that this appears to be egalitarian.

But, I see nothing in egalitarianism that advocates fulleconomicequality for all classes. I wonder if KV realizes this?

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Of course I do. Full economic equality is communism. Egalitarianism is political equality for all. We've lost it in this country. Only the rich get full access to the courts, and only the very rich get full access to the political process. Now the right wing is on a new crusade to establish a "Christian Nation". Pro-Greeed, anti-egalitarian: The New Amerika.

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Of course I do. Full economic equality is communism. Egalitarianism is political equality for all. We've lost it in this country. Only the rich get full access to the courts, and only the very rich get full access to the political process. Now the right wing is on a new crusade to establish a "Christian Nation". Pro-Greeed, anti-egalitarian: The New Amerika.
I agree completely with regard to the court system. The more money, power, and influence you have, if used judiciously, the greater your chance of success in the court system. Without very good legal representation, you don't stand a chance.

However, let's look at the "very rich" getting full access to the political process. I take it that you mean the "very rich" have enough money to influence the politicans that they helped to elect, thereby providing lucrative economic benefits for said "very rich" person, correct?

If so, then I agree with you. Money drives everything in this country.

But, what is quite amazing, is that a man who is not at all interested in changing the way money works in the U.S. is elected by people who don't have any.[?]

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I've been waiting and waiting, but still no sister thread: Bush, the Head Dope. [:(]
.....or dope the head bush......

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