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It's amazing how topics can cross. On other threads on this forum I am following debate over the declining US dollar, and consequent effects. You guys are raising rational reasons that are anti-Kyoto protocol based on economic consequences - but always with $'s in mind.
You are missing the point I raised of how down here the sun will burn you - not tan you - due to very high UV. Like most, I cannot understand either how China and India - both nuclear nations can be regarded as "developing" and thus exempt from erstwhile co-signatory considerations - such as with this Kyoto jack up. Bloody hell! - when are they going to be considered "developed" and thus held fully "responsible" and worldwide "accountable" for their actions - just as my country (New Zealand) with a mere 4.5mil. people is!!!!.
In your first post, you ask why the US did not sign the Kyoto garbage.

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It's amazing how topics can cross. On other threads on this forum I am following debate over the declining US dollar, and consequent effects. You guys are raising rational reasons that are anti-Kyoto protocol based on economic consequences - but always with $'s in mind.
You are missing the point I raised of how down here the sun will burn you - not tan you - due to very high UV. Like most, I cannot understand either how China and India - both nuclear nations can be regarded as "developing" and thus exempt from erstwhile co-signatory considerations - such as with this Kyoto jack up. Bloody hell! - when are they going to be considered "developed" and thus held fully "responsible" and worldwide "accountable" for their actions - just as my country (New Zealand) with a mere 4.5mil. people is!!!!.
In your first post, you ask why the US did not sign the Kyoto garbage.
I volunteer for the French and Belgians to force China to sign-up. Especially France should have pull. They're the ones who wish to sell military equipment to those authoritarian bastards. Hey, maybe France can invite China to vacate Tibet, too?
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It's amazing how topics can cross. On other threads on this forum I am following debate over the declining US dollar, and consequent effects. You guys are raising rational reasons that are anti-Kyoto protocol based on economic consequences - but always with $'s in mind.
You are missing the point I raised of how down here the sun will burn you - not tan you - due to very high UV. Like most, I cannot understand either how China and India - both nuclear nations can be regarded as "developing" and thus exempt from erstwhile co-signatory considerations - such as with this Kyoto jack up. Bloody hell! - when are they going to be considered "developed" and thus held fully "responsible" and worldwide "accountable" for their actions - just as my country (New Zealand) with a mere 4.5mil. people is!!!!.
In your first post, you ask why the US did not sign the Kyoto garbage.
I volunteer for the French and Belgians to force China to sign-up. Especially France should have pull. They're the ones who wish to sell military equipment to those authoritarian bastards. Hey, maybe France can invite China to vacate Tibet, too?
Selling arms and weapons technology to China is despicable, but in it you can see clearly how strategic foreign policy is so easily trumped by filthy lucre. Follow the money and you'll find part of it in some European policians back pocket. Amoral bastards.
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India has a space budget of 300 million and is consider a developing nation? I give up.

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In light of posts on this subject, I will adopt a "stuff you too" attitude to global warming. I hope the carbon sink credits that my country can flog off to polluting nations create huge wealth for me and my fellow citizens - hopefully paid in EURO'S not US$$. We may thus buy a few extended years of luxury living in this southern hemisphere paradise - before the ozone layer totally disintegrates and NZ is UV'd out of existence. (sigh)
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In light of posts on this subject, I will adopt a "stuff you too" attitude to global warming. I hope the carbon sink credits that my country can flog off to polluting nations create huge wealth for me and my fellow citizens - hopefully paid in EURO'S not US$$. We may thus buy a few extended years of luxury living in this southern hemisphere paradise - before the ozone layer totally disintegrates and NZ is UV'd out of existence. (sigh)

and so, ladies and gentlemen, we see the true colors of the people of the carbon credit rich nations and thier intent to soak other nations through silly protocols.

Not to be bellicos, Shrimp, but wear a shirt and put some spf 4000 sun block on....

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I've been busy all day planting trees, and figure their carbon credit sale value - coupled with their sunshade value will prove adouble bonus. Found a new variety: "Carbonsuckup Euro Payus" - should do just nicely [:)]
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I've been busy all day planting trees, and figure their carbon credit sale value - coupled with their sunshade value will prove adouble bonus. Found a new variety: "Carbonsuckup Euro Payus" - should do just nicely [:)]
If all countries did sign it and no exemptions like on China and India, then it would be a good idea.

Its all about money and who has the best deal. I would like to know how China and India got exemptions?

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Take the visiting Martian perspective for a second and glimpse the idiocy of these absurd little flag-waving factions arguing while they destroy their planet. Vote for the Extinction Party! No, it's beyond absurd. Forget it, have a beer.
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It’s true!!!!! There will be a lucrative market for carbon trading.


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