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did I mention Mrs. Az is a current black belt (tae kwon do)? Purely for the sake of self preservation, I stay way from converstions such as that. Holy cats![:0]

When she turned the big 40, I told her not to dispair, "it's like being married to two 20 yr. olds". She was not amused. [}:)][:D]
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did I mention Mrs. Az is a current black belt (tae kwon do)? Purely for the sake of self preservation, I stay way from converstions such as that. Holy cats![:0]

When she turned the big 40, I told her not to dispair, "it's like being married to two 20 yr. olds". She was not amused. [}:)][:D]
I must say, I've never actually sought the company of women who could kick my ass, nor thought it prudent to encourage them to seek training in order to attain that ability. You're a better, braver man than I. [B)]
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I just need a bit of balm for the ego with that other part.
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Yes, of course the USA is the biggest spender, no argument from me.

The whole of the western civilised world is far too wasteful of resources, not just the USA.

BUT, just imagine how much money you could save if you made less pollution [:p][:p]

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I just need a bit of balm for the ego with that other part.
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Yes, of course the USA is the biggest spender, no argument from me.

The whole of the western civilised world is far too wasteful of resources, not just the USA.

BUT, just imagine how much money you could save if you made less pollution [:p][:p]
Certainly is a lower boundary--ship all the non-natives back to Europe, Africa, and Asia. Bugs, bunnies and American Indians rule. The worst pollution is campfires. Ahhhhh. Of course, Britain, European, African, and Asian countries would be pissed-off with a bunch of uncultured immigrants mucking about.

I think the first steps that society should take are the easy babysteps, not the culture-changing steps that will be required in a half-century or so. What I mean is that (IMO) in 50 years it wont matter what steps we take now, the world is gonna be all f**ked-up and will require (or result in) tremendous social and political upheavel--far worse than the 'War on Terror' and 'Cold War' combined.

Folks scoff about killing for oil now (which is a short-hand version of why I think we're in Iraq). Go ahead and scoff. But when the lights go out in the world's major cities, people are not going to ask politicians where the solution is coming from, they will want that solution, NOW. Powerful countries will seize what they need and invent a pretext later. Since they write the history books, their views will survive. In an environment with limited resources, that's the story of nature--red in tooth and claw. It's easy to be moral when your tummy is full and the lights are on.

But if we take the easy steps now--greater conservation, improved efficiency, seeking alternatives to oil dependency, we will cushion the terrible events that are IMO, inevitable.
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Certainly is a lower boundary--ship all the non-natives back to Europe, Africa, and Asia. Bugs, bunnies and American Indians rule. The worst pollution is campfires. Ahhhhh. Of course, Britain, European, African, and Asian countries would be pissed-off with a bunch of uncultured immigrants mucking about.
We have plenty of immigrants already, thanks for the offer though [;)]

This made me think, if you had to leave the USA and live somewhere else what country would you choose?

* " I wouldn't go and live in ANY loser-country" is not an acceptable answer [:p]
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My 'other' country plans are completed. I will retire to my place in a gated community in Naples Florida during the Winters. I will spend the nicer months at my lakeside getaway in Austria. You'd be hardpressed to beat the beauty at either of my choices.
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Certainly is a lower boundary--ship all the non-natives back to Europe, Africa, and Asia. Bugs, bunnies and American Indians rule. The worst pollution is campfires. Ahhhhh. Of course, Britain, European, African, and Asian countries would be pissed-off with a bunch of uncultured immigrants mucking about.
We have plenty of immigrants already, thanks for the offer though [;)]

This made me think, if you had to leave the USA and live somewhere else what country would you choose?

* " I wouldn't go and live in ANY loser-country" is not an acceptable answer [:p]
English-speaking primary language. Democratic. Not too cold. Maybe Vancouver BC? England (Wales?). Ireland? Au/NZ? BVI? Belize?

Second teir would be Spanish speaking as I used to be bilingual 20-30 years ago. I love central and south America. If it wasn't for the narco terrorists my favorite was Columbia. Lovely countryside. Friendly people. I also like Chile an awful lot and I don't think they have the precarious situations found in Columbia, Venezuela, Peru, and Bolivia with narcotraffikers or a nutty ruler.
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You would all be welcome down here - if you had something to contribute (immigration criteria). You would have to adjust for our fierce sunlight though - something to do with depleted ozone - another factor of global warming? - I dont know. High UV warnings are an everyday part of radio and tv weather reporting in New Zealand - what countries need to do similar in Summer?
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Your immigration criteria must be a lot less strict than that of the Aussies, which strikes me as absolutely xenophobic...

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I've only heard of Australia having such strict precautions about exposure to the sun.

I wonder if whites living in Africa have a problem with skin cancer?

I believe the depletion of the ozone layer is just one cause of this problem.

The other reason I reckon is that natives have black skins in those countries for a good reason: it protects them from the sun's rays.

When white people first started living in these hot countries they were mostly covered up and kept out of the sun during the hottest times of the day. They certainly didn't sun bathe in bikinis.
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