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Depends on how you define the word "racist".

It used to mean irrational hatred of, or prejudice against, another race or races or a member thereof.

Nowadays it means any white person who makes a negative remark about someone of another nationality. It's getting a bit silly IMHO.

The murder of James Byrd was an evil racist act. Complaining about the way cheap immigrant labour keeps wages low for native workers is not racist IMHO, it is common sense.

Employers who pay low wages should either go out of business or pay a decent living wage that makes welfare unattractive.

The problem is that everybody wants everything on the cheap. West Germany used to have the right idea. High wages, high productivity and everyone could afford to buy home-manufactured goods. How long can we afford to sell services to each other and not produce anything?

My sleepy and peaceful old home town had a massive influx of Kosovans in the 1990's who proceeded to commit armed robberies, muggings and begging with violence (a guy who wouldn't give had his ear bitten off!) on a grand scale.

When the townspeople finally lost their patience and turned on these scum what was the result?

A double page spread in a national newspaper entitled, "Southend - the country's most racist Town"

The townspeople were made to look like evil racists when they were just defending their town.

That's just one small and insignificant example of a phenomenon that's going on all over the civilised world.

Watch out when the worm finally turns.
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Screw everyone who isn't German/Irish/scotish descent!

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I recall a techie that worked for me a awhile back I asked him what he thought he was worth and he replied, "I'm easily worth $250 and hr", I replied that he's worth about $20/hr to me. He replied "I'll take it" and we both laughed our ass's off.

bottom line: value is perceived not dictated.


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I am for the ease of immigration into this country. Without the hispanics my business would cost alot more to run and would probably run slower since most whites now think they too good to work. Anyone who talks down about hispanics is talkin' to the fightin' side of me.

PS We all win. They get higher paying jobs and are happy, and we get cheap labor. Same as it has always been.
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I am for the ease of immigration into this country. Without the hispanics my business would cost alot more to run and would probably run slower since most whites now think they too good to work. Anyone who talks down about hispanics is talkin' to the fightin' side of me.

PS We all win. They get higher paying jobs and are happy, and we get cheap labor. Same as it has always been.
Wait till the Illegals start running their own businesses and put the people that rely on their below market wages to get wealthy.........

Don't think that can happen................don't be surprised when it does.

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I recall a techie that worked for me a awhile back I asked him what he thought he was worth and he replied, "I'm easily worth $250 and hr", I replied that he's worth about $20/hr to me. He replied "I'll take it" and we both laughed our ass's off.

bottom line: value is perceived not dictated.

Yeah, I got guys like that working for me too.

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Let me decode that for you folks:

"welfare baby factories" = "poor black women"
Well thank you Kirk. Now we know what you think of black women and Mexicans.

Read what I said, not what you want me to have said.

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Cheap labour is not a good thing (except to the one paying the wages of course).
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Cheap labour is not a good thing (except to the one paying the wages of course).
Paying and charging for goods and services whatever the market will bear is a good thing.
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But that is my point.

Everybody wants stuff for cheap.

Paying low wages means that people can't afford to buy home-produced goods. They have to buy cheap foreign made goods (we cannot compete with third world labour costs no matter how low the minimum wage).

We can't afford to manufacture anything anymore so we just sell services to each other.

That can't be sustained forever surely?

We need to make things and sell them to each other (and the rest of the world obviously). Give people a good wage and encourage them to buy home-made stuff.

This doesn't include Mercedes of course, we can still buy them whenever we want [:D]

Or am I being simple minded? It seems like common sense to me [?]

I don't agree with Gordon Gekko that greed is good. It's only good for the very greedy [V]
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