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. . . I think buying used cars and buying simple (smaller) cars is one of the best ways to be "green". . .
I heard someone say that it takes more energy to make a car than the car will use in fuel in its whole lifetime. Does that seem reasonable? If it is, then a used G is definitely more green than a new Prius.
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yeah, now that you mention it i'd rather park my G in the worst areas of San Francisco (which i do, but for fear of stereo theft) than in downtown berkeley (for fear of vandalism) because it's a target . . .
I've heard stories around the campfire of tree huggers vandalizing trucks with winches by spooling the cable out and over the truck and hooking it to the rear hitch or bumper. Then they use a paper clip to short the connector on the winch solenoid pack and the winch winds in the cable and crushes the roof. Urban legend or not, you be the judge.[8D]
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I've heard stories around the campfire of tree huggers vandalizing trucks with winches by spooling the cable out and over the truck and hooking it to the rear hitch or bumper. Then they use a paper clip to short the connector on the winch solenoid pack and the winch winds in the cable and crushes the roof. Urban legend or not, you be the judge.[8D]
A few years ago in the Netherlands some misguided enviromentalists went into a car dealership and poured glue in all the locks and slashed all the tires at a protest on the environmental damage that automobiles were causing.

Now you tell me how big an enviromental impact all those damage tires will cause.... I think some just use it as an excuse for anarchy and cause more damage in the process.

I to a certain extent consider myself a tree hugger, but I would far rather boycott some multinational for environmental abuse than criticise the rights of an individual. And causing mayhem is just ridiculous.

Especially as it is so easy to call the kettle black. Reminds me of some friends I had who were vegetarian because they did not believe in slaughtering inocent animals for food. However they would happily wear leather... go figure.

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I consider myself a fairly "green consumer" and I drive a G. I still maintain that the G, gas guzzling aside is probably one of the most eco-friendly cars available from a manufacturing and maintenance stand point.

1) As pointed out the G is largely recyclable
2) It is largely hand made, no machine involved (think energy consumption, manufacture of assembly line robots etc)
3) reliability, how often do you need to change parts on a G? Virtually never - again huge environmental savings.
4) It is essentially the same body for the last 25 years. Can you imagine how much manufacturing waste goes into
a) designing a new car with plastic body panels
every year?
b) changing all the dies to make those new body
parts once it goes into production?
5) according to the Magna-Steyer website 90% of all Gs manufactured are still on the road. This alone accounts for a massive reduction in waste.


Basically of the three Rs (Reduce, Reuse, Recyle in that order) the G probably fills them better than virtually any other car.

Now if you run your G on veggie oil I am sure it can't be beat in regards to minimising environmental impact, even by a Prius.
Wow, well said. I've been struggling with the idea of driving a gas-guzzler like the G-wagen, but this really puts it into better perspective for me. I grew up in Colorado and went to college in Boulder (hair-farmer central). I too consider myself rather "green" and have only ever owned Volvo cars (which once on the road, are rather clean). But when my wife and I finally get a G-wagen, it'll probabably be the one car that we don't part with for many, many years.

I'm sure that in the San Fran area that unless you drive a 30-year old, oil-burning, polluting, inefficient VW bus or beattle that you look like an elitist pig. Fortunately, Westchester isn't like that. Lots of pigs here. [:D]

Now it's just a matter of finding someone to make me a deal on an '02 or '03 G500. [:P]

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San francisco isn't all bad... hey i had a real hottie walk up to me one time... "where'd you get this old thing... it's COOL!...who makes it?"

I take it however it comes... though she was a bit confused when i said it was only about 4 years old and a mercedes... that's one thing i like about the old interior, if i had play my cards right it allows me to play the vehicle down... i can say it's a 15 year old car and it's not that hard to believe since it's how they shipped in 1990 (cept for the steering wheel and rims)

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. . . I think buying used cars and buying simple (smaller) cars is one of the best ways to be "green". . .
I heard someone say that it takes more energy to make a car than the car will use in fuel in its whole lifetime. Does that seem reasonable? If it is, then a used G is definitely more green than a new Prius.
I was intrigued by this and did a quick search. Someone did say in terms of efficiency it took less energy for Americans to grow wheat and trade it for a japanese car than to produce their own cars due to the efficiencies of the local systems...

However this is perhaps more to the point, I even recognised one of the writers as a member of the UK G Forums....

http://www.newscientist.com/backpage.ns?id=lw900

I also read that hybrid or electic cars are actually no better for the environment in the long term than petrol powered cars due the manufacture, recharging, and disposal of the fuel cells.

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If the Scion is the G's offspring . . .

Then judging by the resemblance, I'd say this is the uncle that nobody in the G family will talk about. [:D]
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