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SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (CNN) -- Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon announced a cease-fire Tuesday, hailing it as a new opportunity for peace in the Middle East.

"We have agreed with Prime Minister Sharon to cease all violence against the Israelis and against the Palestinians, wherever they are," Abbas said after talks at their summit in Egypt.

The historic summit in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh -- hosted by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II --is the first upper-level meeting between Israeli and Palestinian leaders in more than four years.

"A new opportunity for peace is born," Abbas said.

Sharon said Israel will cease its military operations in all locations in return for Palestinians' ending violence against Israelis.

"We really hope this day will be the day that marks the relaunching of the process for a better future that will lead us towards mutual respect and peace in the Middle East," Sharon said.

'We can move forward'
Details of the agreement were not made available, but on Monday, Sharon adviser Raanan Gissin said the Palestinians would declare an end to "violence, terrorism and incitement" against Israel.

In return, Gissin said, Israel will refrain from military action "to the extent that the Palestinians will fulfill their pledges and their commitments."

"It will be their responsibility to stop terrorists," Gissin said. "To the extent that will be fulfilled, we can move forward."

Palestinian Cabinet minister Saeb Erakat said Israeli and Palestinian officials have agreed to revive committees set up to deal with prisoners, the redeployment of troops, Palestinian fugitives and deportees.

Sharm el-Sheikh was the site of a Palestinian-Israeli summit in October 2000.

About 100 people -- mostly Palestinians -- had died in three weeks of violence, and President Bill Clinton mediated marathon peace talks at the Egyptian resort.

That summit -- between Israel's Ehud Barak and the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat -- yielded an unsigned "statement of intent" to end the violence. But clashes between Palestinians and Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank continued.

President Bush met with Arab leaders at the venue in June 2003 during a trip that also included a meeting in Jordan with Sharon and Abbas, then the Palestinian prime minister.

Tuesday's summit is the first time Sharon and Abbas have met since the Palestinian Authority president was elected to succeed Arafat, who succumbed to an unknown illness in November.

After Abbas' election, Israel and the Palestinian Authority took confidence-building steps regarding security, Palestinian prisoners and a proposed Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank.

Abbas has deployed security forces within the Palestinian territories to prevent terrorist attacks, and Israeli officials have approved the release of some Palestinian prisoners.

Last week, an Israeli Cabinet committee approved an end to targeted killings of suspected Palestinian militants and a military withdrawal from five West Bank cities, sources in Sharon's office said.

Items expected to have been taken up at the summit included the status of Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories and the West Bank barrier under construction by Israel, Erakat said.

Also Monday, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice -- after talks with Sharon and Abbas -- announced the two leaders have agreed to meet separately with President Bush in the spring.

"This is the most promising moment for progress between Palestinians and Israelis in recent years," Rice said. "I depart the region confident of the success of the meeting tomorrow between President Abbas and Prime Minster Sharon."

Rice also said U.S. Army Lt. Gen. William Ward will act as a security coordinator and will visit the region in the next few weeks. Ward also will work on Mideast security issues with Egypt and Jordan, she said.

Ward's responsibilities will include helping the Palestinians train and equip their security forces. Among his duties, Rice said, would be monitoring compliance with Israeli and Palestinian security agreements.

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From what I have read, the new Palestinian PM wants to see if Sharon is willing to give them the same deal Arafat turned down in 2000. I don't know if anyone caught CSPAN this morning, but apparently since 2000 Sharon give a big green light ot building even more settlements in the West Bank. As a result, it may be the Israelis who won't deal this time.

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From what I have read, the new Palestinian PM wants to see if Sharon is willing to give them the same deal Arafat turned down in 2000. I don't know if anyone caught CSPAN this morning, but apparently since 2000 Sharon give a big green light ot building even more settlements in the West Bank. As a result, it may be the Israelis who won't deal this time.
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A lot of Non forgiveness to overcome,especially in the last 3 years as the world has come to see the Israel conflict,not as a bunch of holocaust survivors ekeing out a living in the desert ,whilst ducking evil "arab" bullets,But as the unlawful occupation of the land of palestine and the unlawful eviction of the citizens of palestine in 1948 by a polical-religious group who had the support of GB and US.
And who today are carrying out a subtle form of genocide by denying those few palestinians the right to farm their own land or return to the land they as a nation occupied for thousands of years.
The bushites in their own way see the support of Israel as a way of becomming righteous in the eyes of the citizens of israel and in their own sick way,garentee a life in the hereafter,albeit with him down below.
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There is no point in getting into the creation of Isreal, that argument has been going round and round for 50 years. But Isreal is by no means commiting genocide. Given that birth projections predict that Palistinians will outnumber Israelies in 40 years, that's a tough case to make.

I will agree that Isreal has lost the moral high ground they enjoyed in the 70's and 80's.

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But as the unlawful occupation of the land of palestine and the unlawful eviction of the citizens of palestine in 1948 by a polical-religious group who had the support of GB and US.
And who today are carrying out a subtle form of genocide by denying those few palestinians the right to farm their own land or return to the land they as a nation occupied for thousands of years.
You may wish to study up on this issue a little more before make such ridiculous allegations. Start your research about 50 years before 1948 to get a better idea of what was going on the region. Or just do a search in this very forum. You'll actually find some good information on the subject right here.

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But as the unlawful occupation of the land of palestine and the unlawful eviction of the citizens of palestine in 1948 by a polical-religious group who had the support of GB and US.
And who today are carrying out a subtle form of genocide by denying those few palestinians the right to farm their own land or return to the land they as a nation occupied for thousands of years.
You may wish to study up on this issue a little more before make such ridiculous allegations. Start your research about 50 years before 1948 to get a better idea of what was going on the region. Or just do a search in this very forum. You'll actually find some good information on the subject right here.
Him and his kind will argue the Muslims have had that land before the Jews.............

ANd yes I know exactly what I just said....

never mind the fact that Jews have been there since recorded history..........adn Muslims didn't exist before the 7th century AD

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Him and his kind will argue the Muslims have had that land before the Jews.............

ANd yes I know exactly what I just said....

never mind the fact that Jews have been there since recorded history..........adn Muslims didn't exist before the 7th century AD
I don't think that is what he meant. I think what he meant saying is that before 1948, this portion of land was inhabited by who are called after that Palestinians. Just a reminder, Palestinians are not entirely Muslims. There are Christians too, and they are the ones who celebrate Christmas in Bethlehem.

And if you pursue your logic, this means that the lawful inhabitants of America are the Indians. Does this give them the right to chase current Americans from there homes back to Europe and other places? Would that be considered moral and right? I don't think so! So, it's not a question of who lived there first in history hundreds of years ago.

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You know what? I am so sick of this middle east crap. I've been reading about in daily since I was 12.

How about this. Israel releases all Palestinians in a general amnesty. Every single one. Israel takes down every remnant of that wall. Israel gives them the same deal on the land, that was previously turned down by Arafat. Israel gives Palestine an offer of unparalleled financial and technical support.

NOW, WHEN THE SUICIDE BOMBERS START BLOWING UP BUS LOADS OF CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS ENJOYING PIZZA AT THE LOCAL SBARRO, I BEG ISRAEL TO MARCH THRU, PALESTINE, SYRIA AND LEBANON AND SIMPLY TURN IT ALL INTO ISRALI TERRITORY, ENDING THE LIVES OF EVERYONE IN THEIR PATH.
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NOW, WHEN THE SUICIDE BOMBERS START BLOWING UP BUS LOADS OF CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS ENJOYING PIZZA AT THE LOCAL SBARRO, I BEG ISRAEL TO MARCH THRU, PALESTINE, SYRIA AND LEBANON AND SIMPLY TURN IT ALL INTO ISRALI TERRITORY, ENDING THE LIVES OF EVERYONE IN THEIR PATH.
I would agree with this logic if you can give the Palestinians and others the right to do the same thing with Israel when Israel bombs and shoots Palestinian children on their way to school and in their backyards. The chance to enjoy life should be given to all people.
And by the way, Israelis marched and occupied part of Lebanon for 22 years, and then retreated in 2000. It served them nothing but more casualties.

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