Date registered: Sep 2004
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RE: Why all the lying about Social Security?
I guess maybe I don't understand all the reluctance to change.
The excuse of not allowing same-sex marriage is that "it's always been this way, and we're not going to change, evolve, or even consider anything different."
The SS system is not binary. It's not a case of "yes we have it" or "no we don't." The measures described by Darth Cheney will destroy it. What the heck is so wrong with considering how it's done in other nations and adopting at least some of the things that are successful?
Health care. No evolution, no change. It's private, and it's going to stay that way. Other countries have social systems, so there's no way the Us will, 'cause every facet of every single system the US has is the finest in the world.
When did everyone in the US become so inward looking ane completely resistant to examination of the world with anything other than displeasure or outright hatred?
We're having our own Canada Pension Plan problems with the baby boomers living longer and the smaller population coming up behind. We're trying to look outward for solutions. We've got a seriously screwed up gov't but at least they do try to fix some things occasionally. Same with health care. We're looking at the US system to see if there are at least components that might help us, as well as many European nations' systems.
There is this rampant fear that something might "steal from the individual." Well, I hate to say it, but western prosperity and stability was built upon a foundation of taxes. Taxes built infrastructure and taxes built miltary power. Economic stability was built with the Welfare State Compromise (sorry, FDR, the New Deal was too late, good try...) and high standards of living are in part thanks to publicly funded universities (The US, Canada, and Europe has created the bulk of technological leaps by using a combination of public funding and profit-driven enterprise) and other institutions.
Why the space program? Why did the US go to the moon? I notice GE didn't pay for it and turn it into an amusement ride. Taxpayer (parasitic) dollars funded it all. Why bother? I wonder how different our society might have been in the last 30 years if the US hadn't aspired to space?
We don't dream anymore and we don't think of the future in terms of a population. We think about today and no further. I seldom hear anyone talk about anything other than themselves and their responsibility to nothing but themselves. Oh, sure, lots flag waving on September 11, 2001, but other than some "go get 'em and kill 'em" remarks, it's all done. Flag waving today is about war and little else. Economic war, military war.
There is an assumption that anyone that collects one dollar of welfare, social security, or any other benefit is an unworthy drain on the nation. They are lazy scum that do nothing but suck on the taxpayer tit. I would ask those that so willingly say such things if they know such people? I have spent a great deal of time with a great number of families in tight spots, and found such a small minority of them to fit that description. The vast majority are hard working folks that just made a wrong choice, or even just got sick (not of their own doing) and ended up in a bad situation.
We have studied our welfare system to death, and found that over 90% use the system once for a short term and then never returned. They used it as it was designed, as a bridge to make sure they didn't fall into the abyss.
All the hard work that was done from 1939 until 1981. What a shame.
I'm really trying to see things from your perspective, but I'm having trouble getting my head up my ass