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WTF?: Prof Won't Back Down On Comparing WTC Victims To Nazis

BOULDER, Colo. -- A University of Colorado professor who compared the victims of the World Trade Center attacks to Nazis said he would not back down from the topic in a speech in central New York next month.

Two Colorado congressmen on Thursday said professor Ward Churchill should apologize for his comments, while the brother of a man who died at the World Trade Center called Churchill a "nut case."

CU-Boulder interim Chancellor Phil DiStefano said Churchill's views don't represent the opinions of anyone affiliated with the university but that he had a right to express his opinion.

"While I may personally find his views offensive, I also must support his right as an American citizen to hold and express his views, no matter how repugnant, as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the Constitution," DiStefano said in a written statement.

Churchill, chairman of the ethnic studies program at CU, has been invited to speak next month at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y., where news of his visit has ignited protests.

In "Some People Push Back," a treatise he wrote shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Churchill said the 3,000 people killed in the twin towers weren't innocent victims. He said they worked for "the mighty engine of profit" but chose to ignore their role.

Churchill, an indigenous issues expert, described the World Trade Center victims as "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who carried out Hitler's plan during World War II to exterminate Jews in Europe.

He called Eichmann a technocrat who "crunched numbers" and made the trains that carried Jews to death camps run on time. Churchill said Thursday that those in the Trade Center were technocrats whose work was just as deadly.

Rep. Bob Beauprez, R-Colo., called the comments "outrageous" and urged Churchill to resign. He and Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colo., said Churchill should apologize.

James Giaccone's 42-year-old brother, Joseph, worked for Cantor-Fitzgerald and died in the World Trade Center. Giaccone said he was outraged the college would invite Churchill to speak.

"I'm all for free speech but there has to be some responsibility that goes along with that," said Giaccone, of Long Island. "The college shouldn't be a lightning rod for this kind of a nut case."

Churchill's wife, fellow CU ethnic studies professor Natsu Saito, said her husband is popular with students. She said his statements sometimes make people uncomfortable but also force people to confront truths they would rather ignore.

"He does it because he really cares about all people, and everyone's kids, and their well-being. He has a very big heart, and I think that's what motivates his work. Because he tells the truth in a straightforward way, that is perceived as harsh," Saito said.

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This professor is simply exercising the most disgusting act of insensitivity. Even with his theory he should consider himself as a Nazi as well since he contributes to society by teaching. Teaching is a profession that puts grease into this mechanism of his that he so despises.
I am surprised that some college is inviting him to elaborate on his stupid theory. I don’t think even the worst of anarchists will invite him to hear this idiocy.

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he's only practicing his first amendment rights. He may even enjoy the notoriety.

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RE: WTF?: Prof Won't Back Down On Comparing WTC Victims To Nazis

Ward Churchill resigned as Dept chair of Ethnic Studies but did not resign his professorship. Here's a link to the article causing the uproar:

http://www.darknightpress.org/index.php?i=news&c=recent&view=9

And the Rocky Mountain News with more info:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Churchill's statement:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/education/article/0,1299,DRMN_957_3512084,00.html
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RE: WTF?: Prof Won't Back Down On Comparing WTC Victims To Nazis

He sounds just as violent as the violence he opposes.

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Reinhardt Heydrich was primarily responsible for the Final Solution, with contributions from other Nazi Party officials; Eichmann was Heydrich’s deputy. Hitler never produced a plan for the Jews, per se – he left that to Goebbels, Heydrich’s superior.

It would seem this professor’s theory about the victims of the WTC is in as much error as his incorrect understanding of Eichmann’s role in the Nazi regime in particular and the Final Solution in general.

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Reinhardt Heydrich was primarily responsible for the Final Solution, with contributions from other Nazi Party officials; Eichmann was Heydrich’s deputy. Hitler never produced a plan for the Jews, per se – he left that to Goebbels, Heydrich’s superior.

It would seem this professor’s theory about the victims of the WTC is in as much error as his incorrect understanding of Eichmann’s role in the Nazi regime in particular and the Final Solution in general.
Actually, Himmler was Heydrich's superior. Heydrich played a major role in the initial set up of the Final Solution, and set up the core organizational structure, but he had little to do with it's day-to-day operations. After that he became Governor-General of Bohemia in 1941 (the former Czechslovakia), where he was assassinated in 1942. Himmler also had little to do with operational issues - he was a policy guy. Day-to-day operations of the Final Solution were administered by Eichmann, in his capacity as the head of the Gestapo's Office of Jewish Affairs. The professor's analogy is accurate, if one accepts his ridiculous theory.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/eichmann.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich

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its assholes like that professor, and those who try to make Liberal Indocrination centers out of the nations Universities and Colleges that need to be taken out and shot.

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Its nice to see you standing up for freedom of speech.

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Neat thing about blaming dead victims is they stay silent.
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