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Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
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"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."
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Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), "Misalliance"

Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles.
George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958)

Don't be a fool and die for your country. Let the other sonofabitch die for his.
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It is not unseemly for a man to die fighting in defense of his country.
Homer (800 BC - 700 BC), The Iliad

The single best augury is to fight for one's country.
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And so, my fellow americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
John F. Kennedy (1917 - 1963), Inaugural address, January 20, 1961

How beautiful is death, when earn'd by virtue!
Who would not be that youth? What pity is it
That we can die but once to serve our country!
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You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.
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When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its heart.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 - 1882), Journals, 1824

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784), quoted in Boswell's Life of Johnson

When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home.
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Tossed salad is pretty good. What's the main course?
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I considered selecting the ones I thought apposite, but I decided to be fairer and leave the bronze-age morality in there.
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That's interesting. If you are right, what is the point of giving voice to that which is not right?
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even if it may as well stay in the garage, with minimal upgrades, it could hit anything a hummer could hit. With a 3" lift you can run 35" tires. If you don't have locking diffs on the hummer, and you have treacherous terrain, the faster it's gonna get stuck spinning wheels and the slowly plodding G will still cruise on by... Even if the G had to roll slowly, at least it could follow because it would fit anywhere a hummer will.

Why does it matter if the mog is pritive? you were talking about prowess. Or are you talking about speed?... i'm just picking apart that you said there's no comparison between the G and the Hummer, and there is a comparison. THey are different, with different intended purposes, and different capabilities, and each in stock form can leave the other sitting at home for a variety of reasons.

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Agreed.
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Didn't someone mention here recently that some of our troops in Iraq were ditching H1's and grabbing Landcruisers? I have talked with some Vets about the lack of reliability in the H1's. Build quality on the H1 and the Tahoe...I mean H2 is not evident.
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RE: OT: I got to drive a Hummer H1

I'm willing to bet many of the replies are coming from people who have very limited or no experience with either vehicle. I hope Harald will post, as he has extensive knowledge of both vehicles. I will post my own opinion having driven both offroad, which is that with similar tire tread pattern the G will outperform the Hummer H1 in basically all situations. In stock form, the Hummer may look more aggressive, but can only travel up and down 60% grades and has a side-slope capability of 40%. Likewise the G-wagen is designed to be able to safely travel up and down 80% grades and has a side-slope tilt rating of 54%. As far as ground clearance, because of the independent suspension the Hummer only has more clearance at the very center-line of the truck, which is almost pointless since obstacles should be driven over with tires rather than straddled anyway. Harald's site has a short pictoral comparison, which clearly notes the G as the victor. http://4x4abc.com/G/hummer.html

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15 minutes into driving it we got it stuck in a stream and spent the next hour and a half winching it out.
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G -Wagon can't keep up w/it in any respect. However, a well equipt Unimog could take it on...
The test submitted on Harald’s page summarizes it all .

The media is not a reference to base your opinion it , you have to witness it .

No one is saying that the H 1 doesn't have capabilities but it is not as much as the media showed nor as much as it's aggressive look .

The G is a better off roader then the H1 , the cross axle test is a very simple method to prove it and believe me when on trail you'll find yourself often in similar situations .

Jamison the H1 is very heavy it doesn't help allot in deep snow , I've been on a snow trip where we had an H1 with us , when we got to the middle and the snow started to melt the H1 was getting stuck frequently .

The way the H1 looks stuck in the picture you posted I don't blame the vehicle as much as I blame the driver , from what I see it is not a spot where the H1 would get stuck , or perhaps the situation is worse then what the picture shows .

When you get the opportunity to off road a G you will feel the difference especially when you get to use the lockers .

I bet you had a nice experience .

for all who wants to get an idea about the G capabilities here are some pictures that explains things better .

The first two pictures are for a G with 33" tires

The last one is for standard G .

What do you think should the G stay in Garage ?


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