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Bot, they grasp onto whatever they can. Let them.

It's not worth the time - they'll never see. Besides, there's still pissed they lost and they're gonna make everyone suffer for as long as they can.

If Bush said the sky was blue, they would argue otherwise... Just look at some of the converstions and statements here...

But, that's just my opinion.
Just curious -- are you a Tom Coburn supporter as well?

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I hate inaccurate history. Hitler invaded Poland. England and France then declared war on him.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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You sure? I thought Poland invaded Iraq. [:D]

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Jim, I wasn't lied to. Sorry you were.

Lets not go through all that again, okay?
After Baghdad fell, we were told "Mission Accomplished", the right wing whooped and cheered, and the bloodshed just got worse.

After Saddam was captured, Paul Bremer walked out and announced "Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him!",the right wing whooped and cheered, and the bloodshed just got worse.

After "Sovereignty" was turned over to the Iraqis,the right wing whooped and cheered, and the bloodshed just got worse.

Today, the right wing is whooping and cheering. I no longer look on that as cause for hope.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I hate inaccurate history. Hitler invaded Poland. England and France then declared war on him.
Your right. Hilter did the below first, and we did nothing. But when he invaded Poland, France and England declare war.


Mar. 15 - Hitler arrived in Prague and completed the occupation of the German-speaking regions (Bohemia, Moravia) of Czechoslovakia

Mar. 23 - Hitler occupied Memelland (NE Prussia ceded to Lithuania) & demanded Danzig - map


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You sure? I thought Poland invaded Iraq. [:D]
Surprisingly, all the documents of Nazi war plans found after the war showed that Hitler wished to avoid war with the English and the French as much as possible - if one knows the story of Rudolf Hess, then they know how badly the Nazis wanted to keep peace with them. Hitler hoped the Allies would see him as a bulwark against the Soviets and would support his expansion in the East.

If one reads Mein Kampf, one sees that Hitler envisioned a vast empire in the East. I am sure he would have gotten around to the British and the French in due course, but Hitler really believed those countries would become National Socialist by political, not military means, and given the strong ultraright movements in those countries (which persist to this day) he may not have been far of the mark - in fact the strong fascist movement in France made German success there easy. One of the embarassing facts that is not spoke of often is that many citizens of the so-called "occupied" countries enlisted enthusiastically in the Waffen-SS foreign service division - in fact the Norwegians were considered equal to the Germans as troops.

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Bot, they grasp onto whatever they can. Let them.

It's not worth the time - they'll never see. Besides, there's still pissed they lost and they're gonna make everyone suffer for as long as they can.

If Bush said the sky was blue, they would argue otherwise... Just look at some of the converstions and statements here...

But, that's just my opinion.
Just curious -- are you a Tom Coburn supporter as well?
Why do you ask?

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Why do you ask?
He's such a shining example of conservatism, I just wanted to see if you were a real conservative or just faking it. I understand your reluctance to answer...

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I'm a Tom Waits fan. Does that count?


FILIPINO BOX SPRING HOG LYRICS


Well I hung on to mary’s stump
I danced with a soldier’s glee
With a rum soaked crook
And a big fat laugh
I spent my last dollar on thee
I saw bill bones, gave him a yell
Kehoe spiked the nog
With a chain link fence
And a scrap iron jaw
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Spider rolled in from
Hollister burn
With a one-eyed stolen mare
Donned himself with chicken fat
Sawin on a jaw bone violin there
Kathleen was sittin down
In little reds recovery room
In her criminal underwear bra
I was naked to the waist
With my fierce black hound
And I’m cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog

Dig a big pit in a dirt alley road
Fill it with madrone and bay
Stinks like hell
And the neighbors complain
Don’t give a hoot what they say
Slap that hog
Gotta roll em over twice
Baste him with a sweeping broom
You gotta swat them flies
And chain up the dogs
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog

Rattle snake piccata with grapes and figs
Old brown betty with a yellow wig
Tain’t the mince meat filagree
And it ain’t the turkey neck stew
And it ain’t them bruleed
Okra seeds though she
Made them especially for you
Worse won a prize for her
Bottom black pie
The beans got to thrown to the dogs
Jaheseus christ I can always
Make room when they’re
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog
Cookin up a filipino box spring hog


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Excuse me, but isn't Coburn, ah, nuts?

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