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...freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
I thought freedom's just another word for 'lose the left'...

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Read Shrub's inaugural speech, freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

In this case, that sticker wasn't threatening or inciting violence, therefore the state has no compelling interest in infringing upon her civil right to express an opinion. BTW: That bumper sticker is all over the place around my blue state. Don't like it, then avert thine eyes tenderfoot.
True. It is amazing how easily citizens in this land--which this president has committed to spreading "freedom" around the world--how easily they would surrender their own freedoms.

Another point: Anyone who is rearing children in the current atmosphere of coarseness so apparent in the media who would object to a simple f**k Bush is living in a dream world. Your kids hear worse, and probably say worse, every day in school.

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A Denver woman was confronted by a police officer yesterday and informed that unless she removed the F**k Bush bumper sticker from her truck she would be arrested.
Lucky for her, a reporter from the local newspaper overheard the encounter and took the issue public. Higher authorities in the police dept told the woman the officer had made a mistake and she had a right to make a politial statement with her bumper sticker.

I guess you'd have to call it trickle down fascism or some such thing. The enforcers at the bottom seem to be aware that dissent is no longer welcome in our society.
I somehow think you are twisting this to fit your own agenda. I doubt the police bothered the woman because of an anti-Bush sticker. There are plenty of those around. I think that it is pretty clear that she was stopped because of the word "f__k". I'm guessing this violated some public profanity laws.

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A Denver woman was confronted by a police officer yesterday and informed that unless she removed the F**k Bush bumper sticker from her truck she would be arrested.
Lucky for her, a reporter from the local newspaper overheard the encounter and took the issue public. Higher authorities in the police dept told the woman the officer had made a mistake and she had a right to make a politial statement with her bumper sticker.

I guess you'd have to call it trickle down fascism or some such thing. The enforcers at the bottom seem to be aware that dissent is no longer welcome in our society.
I somehow think you are twisting this to fit your own agenda. I doubt the police bothered the woman because of an anti-Bush sticker. There are plenty of those around. I think that it is pretty clear that she was stopped because of the word "f__k". I'm guessing this violated some public profanity laws.
Then the journalist covering this is doing so as well, because that's exactly how the story was covered. I see that particular expletive on many cars here. Whether or not that is the case, I see you trying to spin the story your way.

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That's good. You should redo all the lyrics and get them to play the song on Air America.

Yep, I was spinning the story. The truth is the sticker said F**k Kerry and it was a Democratic Party operative who threatened to assasinate the woman. I just made up the part about the FBI raiding protesters apartments.

I don't think free speech is absolute but it is one of the most important political values I can imagine.
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Practically, it depends on whether or not there are laws governing the display of particular words in public in that neck of the woods. More generally, it also depends on whether you think it is right to make a robust political statement that is likely to offend others not because of it's political content, but because of the use of taboo words in public.

Personally, I object to children having to hear repugnant lies from odious politicians much more than the occasional 'bad word', which they will in all likelihood be using behind the parental back in any case.
I believe the sticker in question was the evermore popular "Buck Fush" sticker. Not obscene, but the pig didn't like it.

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Not obscene, but the pig didn't like it.
And you wonder why I have little respect for you...

Aren't you supposed to be tolerant of others, like all the other Librals? Or are you being hypocritical?

Hmmmmm...

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Not obscene, but the pig didn't like it.
And you wonder why I have little respect for you...

Aren't you supposed to be tolerant of others, like all the other Librals? Or are you being hypocritical?

Hmmmmm...
Not to perpetuate or incite a flame war, but this officer in question shows little regard for the laws of the land. In such cases, it may be appropriate to label said officer a "pig".

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And you wonder why I have little respect for you...

Aren't you supposed to be tolerant of others, like all the other Librals? Or are you being hypocritical?

Hmmmmm...
Do you really think he wonders? Or cares? Seriously...

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Was it the F**K or the B**h that got them all riled-up?

Is a sticker with "F**K" illegal, whether or not it involves a "B**H"?

If it said, "Assassinate B**H" would that have been okay?

How do you spell "assassinate"?
Bot, you spell it with two asses[:D]

How does one spell the adjective version of the word "pus"? I'm fairly certain it ends in a "Y"....but i can't be sure[:p]

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