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If the teaching profession is so high-paying, has so many crazy perks, and is "the bomb" then why don't the folks complaining become teachers?
When I retire, I thinking about teaching. The pay is about 45K in my area, but the benefits are great. Just want something to do.

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I guess that would depend on the household. For most it is a matter of convenience. I work out of the home, but when kids come at 3 to 3:30, I imagine it puts a real crimp into afternoon plans.
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There used to be Justicefiles.org that listed all the salaries, addresses, soc. #'s, credit rating ect of all the police officers in Washington state, its not up anymore but the average pay for a cop in Kirkland was $35/hr + ot, the people working at the front counter made $20/hr, the school system got thier monies from property taxes..so richer area=richer schools and teachers.
IMO Cops don't have a very difficult job and neither do firemen compared to the long hours and responsibility of the well being of our kids and thier first and secondary educations, if they made $100,000 and wanted higher pay I'd consider it. Teachers are usually there before school starts and at least 2-3 hours after it ends, and at highschools theres alot of after school activities for the staff and principal to deal with. How much do teachers at private schools make??
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Private school teachers make less in my area. They make about 25K.

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Private school teachers make less in my area. They make about 25K.
Are you sure? Seems like the pay would be higher, anyway teachers are cool with me, if they want to make equal too or more than fire fighter and police officers, more power to em.
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Private school teachers make less in my area. They make about 25K.
Are you sure? Seems like the pay would be higher, anyway teachers are cool with me, if they want to make equal too or more than fire fighter and police officers, more power to em.
The average salary is about 35K in my area. You can get a new 3,000 sqr ft house about 210K in an excellent neighborhood. The tax on that house is about $2,100 a year. Private schools pay less than the public schools here. The reason I know about the school pay because my best friend quit his job on Wall Street and got a master in teaching and moved to Atlanta. He told me that male teachers get about 5 to 10K more because of a shortage of male teachers in the inner city.

I was surprised that he gave up his high salary to teach. He loves his new career, and he is in politics.

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The example I found was for ten years, a Master's degree, and two certifications. Around here if you're the new teacher on the block you get laid off every year. Every GD year you have to worry about your next job. I'd expect to make at least 70k right off the bat with an MS in EE or something similiar. Yes it could get that good, and even better, at worst a BS or BA with one year experience starts off at around 42k in that district. Not bad, but there are others which start their teachers at half that.

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The average salary in the philosophy dept where I work is $18,375 a yr for full time work.
This is because the school, like many, if not most colleges, relies on part-time instructors. I am the only full-time teacher with benefits, the rest (14 people) are 'part-time' with no benefits. While considered 'part-timers', most of them work full-time by teaching at different schools. Almost all of them have Ph.d's. For this trend in higher education we can give thinks to the Reagan years.
Over 75% of the courses taught at our college are taught by 'part-time' instructors. While some of our philosophy instructors have other jobs, others actually live off this salary.
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Phil. teachers have always been a little strange. Anybody who has a college degree living on $19k, needs their head examined.

In my area, who can make more than that, talking into the drive-thru microphone, and a plus for the customers would be that you can actually speak English.
My wife just hired a girl who only answers a phone and schedules medical appointments. She wanted $20 an hour w/ no experience. They settled on $15 an hour, full medical and life benefits and a 90 day pay review. I find that to beexcessive.
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