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I think the important point here is that many Democrats believe Bush is not fit for leadership of a country, and therefore diss him, instead of start legit arguments against him. Many Republicans agree that Bush may not be their top choice, however, they believe he is more capable than Kerry. I think the argument that "the US saved France and kicked Germany's ass, so they should leave us alone" is spurious, it depends on which side you take, and is therefore a matter of opinion. If you ask Osama what he thinks about the US, he will say they are the terrorists blowing people up in a country far from their own that they should simply leave in peace. Now, you could say that the US dosn't agree with many of Osama's views, which is why they are fighting him. On the other hand, the Europeans are unhappy about US policies, including the invasion of Iraq. The Europeans are being way more mature than the US by diplomatically negotiating(or at least trying) their differences, as opposed to getting their toys out and going to war. The US should not be surprised that the EU is unhappy about them just going into Iraq without approval, essentially saying "f*ck you," when they are unhappy that Osama dared to say "f*ck you" to them.
I'm not claiming that either the US, the EU, or Osama have the right views, I am just observing the fact that it seems paradoxical what people are doing.
I also believe that the US should deal with religious fanatics in their own country before dealing with ones elsewhere.
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have NEVER known or heard of a true Christian doing physical harm to another person.
Now there's a creative solution to the problem. Call anyone who engages in violence, not a 'true' X. Now where have I heard that before??

Just a reminder that on January 8th, 1697, in JJL's great country, Thomas Aikenhead was executed by devout Presbyterian Christians for stating that the world was eternal and God was the world.
This puts the murder of Dr. Slepian in Buffalo NY by James Kopp, a devout Christian in 1998 in a distinguished history of religious murders.
I said that "I" had never known a true Christian to harm anyone. And the the subject was Southern Babtists, of which none of your examples are. Get back on track or hush.

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And the the subject was Southern Babtists, of which none of your examples are. Get back on track or hush.
Sorry, my bad. I forget that the only true Christians are Southern Babtists.
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And the the subject was Southern Babtists, of which none of your examples are. Get back on track or hush.
Sorry, my bad. I forget that the only true Christians are Southern Babtists.
I didn't say that either. You are misconstruing the topic.

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