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Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

Given the existence of the Project for New American Century which existed prior to Bush getting elected, I can understand why Bush invaded Iraq. It had nothing to do with faulty intelligence or 9/11 and everything to do with the Pax Americana and an imperial vision of the future.

But what still puzzles me, is why Blair got involved. Obviously, he was no signatory to the Pax Americana. Did Blair simply make a mistake and believe that Hussein had WMD's or was he trying to tag along and get first dibs on the side benefits of the American empire?

Can some Brits (JJL?)) on the board comment on this? How does the British left explain Blair's decision?
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

1. Saddam tried to assasinate his daddy.
2. He's beholden to an oil services company.
3. He wants to colonize the middleast.
4. God told him to.
5. He made a choice between tying the destiny of the UK to France or to the USA.
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

...by jove, I think he's got it!
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

Wow! I didn't know Bot was British!

I hear ya KE on this one. You'd think after their prior experience in Iraq they would've known better. I asked the brits I met on honeymoon what they thought and they didn't really seem to have any idea.
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

bot,

reasons 1-4 are shrub reason and the only one that could be attributed to blair is 5....

the brits couldn't answer your questions because there are no real, sensible answers to that q. Blair is just a freaking puppet to the shrub and co. and another flunky of history lessons..



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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

BTW, who is Blair's "daddy"? Other then Mr. Blair, that is...

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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

Friend of mine says he read an article on the web arguing that the Brits got involved because Bush promised them new high tech stealth technology if they did. I can't find any info on that with a google.
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

i couldn't really find but http://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/01/50517.html


seems they got the bombers though...



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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

Don't kill the messenger boys and girls. Take this an analytical challenge. Focus on the argument.

It goes back to Churchill's observation that its better to be a good friend of powerful neighbors and have a little influence then ignore the neighbor or act against them and have none. If you insist, I'll find the exact quote but I think that's the gist of it.

Here's another, never spoken reason advanced first by Rudyard Kipling (I believe) and mentioned by Churchill. English-speaking people have provided the world with the best practical model for popular self-government in modern times. That makes us natural allies against non-democratic states. This is one reason that the French are so anti-American. They believe that the Francophonic nations should be in ascendency, that their (francophon) culture is superior.

I think this is part of Kiplings (and Rhodes') 'white man's burden' argument. If you are unfamiliar with it, look to the writings of the late colonial intelligentsia in Britain. Kipling wrote a poem about it. Ignore the racial implications--a violated taboo--and read it as though race weren't the issue.

BTW, is one a racist if one brings these subjects up for critical analysis? Curious what you think about that, too. We're touching the edge of a taboo in the USA. Wonder how furriners view it.
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RE: Why did Blair get involved in Iraq?

Kinda like being the house slave v. the field slave...or better to be a sycophantic lapdog than a whipped dog. The Brits must be so proud of their new role--chief arse sniffer to the American emperor.
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