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Actually, Bush is the baby killer. Their just pawns. Why do you think they screen everyone who goes to a Bush event? They don't want anyone shouting "Baby Killer!" at that butcher.
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Would you also like to add Roosevelt,Truman,Eisenhower
Kennedy,Johnson,Nixon,Bush-41 to that list.
Oh yes don't forget Sen. John Kerry
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Would you also like to add Roosevelt,Truman,Eisenhower
Kennedy,Johnson,Nixon,Bush-41 to that list.
Oh yes don't forget Sen. John Kerry
The way I see it, Roosevelt and Truman were at war because we had to defend America against an enemy who wanted us to stop being. That war was justified. Not baby killers.

Eisenhower's war was not so clearly justified. A bigger version of North Korea today that was still no more than a North Korea might not be so bad. No Hyundais, no Kia's, no cheap electronics and no shipbuilding competition. Might not be so bad. But the jury in my mind is still out, and too lazy to really gather data to make a point either way. Lean to not baby killer.

Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon were definitely baby killers. Not clear if Kennedy would have continued the war for so long had he lived, but he spawned the beginning of the expansion of the US role in Vietnam. Johnson really let it go out of control and Nixon continued the same for his first term. Baby Killers, all of them, with capitol letters. And, see, I don't care that they were Democrats. They were wrong. period.

Bush number one ended up doing the right thing but it seems he could have avoided the war if he had not let Saddam get out of control. I would not condemn him to baby killer.

Bush number two is a BABY KILLER, all caps. Just some frenzied need to kill our babies after they have been nurtured in our homes for 18 years, and any babies of any age in Iraq. Can't understand it. If he had stayed with Taliban and Al-Qaeda babies and old men, he would have been a hero. Maybe he thought his Dad was a pussy and had to make up for the feeling he was being laughed at by Saddam. Iraq makes no sense though. BABY KILLER.

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I spoke with an old buddy of mine this weekend.
He is still stationed at Camp Pendleton a
Marine Corps Base, near Oceanside, Ca.
He pulled into the local Mobil station in Oceanside
to fill up his vehicle. Upon exiting the vehicle
4 middle age people, returning to their car, noticed
he was dressed in uniform. One spouted off with a comment
about him being a war criminal, the others all chuckled.
Then they spoke the famous baby killer words.
He was so shocked he just did an about face hoped back
in his vehicle and drove away.
I fear that the ugly heads will rise up once again.
As I witnessed on the one occasion my brother returned from
Vietnam in 1971.


Yes, it is all sounding, smelling and feeling incredibly like Vietnam. Including the errors by all the American people, those who opposed the war and took it out on the soldiers, and those that opposed those opposing the war for whatever reasons, but allowed the morally bankrupt politicians to make points to win elections by killing Americans and other people offshore. Jim
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Would you also like to add Roosevelt,Truman,Eisenhower
Kennedy,Johnson,Nixon,Bush-41 to that list.
Oh yes don't forget Sen. John Kerry
I think some of those men had moral justifications for war, and waged it in response to real enemies. Thats the difference between "justifiable homicide" and "baby killing butcher". I'll let you pick out the baby killers in the bunch based on that criteria.
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Personally Jim, I think the story is made up. Most middle aged people don't go looking for a fist fight with soldiers. And it is so convenient they are middle-aged, you know, so they can be bad old hippies like us. The story sounds preposterous to me absent some kind of proof.
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I live right next to Camp Pendleton. My only issue with the marines there is that the ladies always go for them.
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Now that you mention it Kirk, you are probably right. But I think it can happen. There are all kinds of tactless men who can be inspired to be especially tactless and full of bravado in the presence of women, especially after drinking. But I think Americans are genuinely proud and compassionate when it comes to encounters with our soldiers in public at the moment. So you are probably correct. Jim
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I should add that while we should hold our soldiers to a higher standard, it's hard to remember that they are human beings too. The average person, put into intense, life-threatening situations, isn't going to always behave rationally. This doesn't make it right, however... killing innocent people is still an atrocity. It just makes it somewhat understandable.
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