dacia - 10/23/2004 1:09 AM
Good questions. Maybe I should start by defining "freedom" according to my understanding of course. [:D] I would say there are two basic types.
Absolute freedom and conditional or relative freedom. Absolute freedom is total independence from enviromental constraints. This is probably unattainable for humans.
Conditional freedom means that we are free to do whatever we want within certain limits. ...[/QUOTE]
There was just too much in your previous for me to fairly address, so I picked what I believe are the biggies. I hope we can go back and follow-up some of your other thoughts, too. Perhaps later.
I am struck by the idea of absolute freedom, using your definition, and its unattainability. This notion of freedom is what we might call, God. The freedom to act or be or do or not, without any constraint whatsoever in time or space or energy. Even a form would be a constraint on freedom. Perfect freedom.
A strange concept, difficult to get my mind around. What intrigues me is that it fits with the Genesis metaphor of Creation (what I consider a metaphor), in which Man was made in God's image. Constrained freedom being the image of perfect freedom. Does this formulation of perfect freedom fit other religious traditions?
We then seem to agree in some fashion that freedom has a human and a non-human component, though we are both kind of vague about that. My reason for being vague is that I am uncertain, entering new territory and not sure I am properly outfitted. So I'll just take a leap and assume that freedom only comes with the capacity for choosing between two or more outcomes and the ability to effect that choice. For example, I may choose to pole vault, but lacking ability, I may not have the ability to effect that choice.
That analogy doesn't seem quite adequate to me. I think its going the right direction though. What it misses is that failure itself is a ever-present part of freedom. For freedom carries risk, too. If risk were removed from the choice, then one's freedom would be diminished by somebody preventing one from assuming the full measure of one's freedom.