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Isn't it time you liberals get a new mantra? I've heard every republican presidential candidate, ( going back to Eisenhower, in my memory) called stupid. Whats with the name calling? I guess, its by definition, that all republicans are stupid. The "reasoning" ( if the left ever employs reason) must be; Republicans disagree with me. I am smart. Therefore All republicans must be stupid.
You guys talk about "inclusion" but its clear the only people invitied to your party are those with whom you agree.
If republicans even hinted at the vitriol you guys spew every day, we'd be labeled as " mean spirited" and what we say would be called " hate speech"
I don't expect to have any of you change your closed minds--but at least pretend to discuss the ideas.
I don't know anyone of any political persuasion who is so blind as as to call all republican candidates stupid. I think Bush is stupid, but I never thought Nixon, Ford, Bush I, or Reagan were. Maybe you are over-reacting?

I'm sure there is partisanship on both sides of the aisle, it's inherent in the system, but as far as "hate speech" goes, maybe you should listen a bit closer to Cheney and Zell Miller. Then to cap it off, listen to the right wing talk shows, and get your fill of vitriol from Limbaugh and Hannity.

It seems to me it's the right wing that has a problem discussing issues. Reason has gone completely out the window as the republicans struggle to keep faith that Saddam and 9/11 were linked. As a matter of fact I heard today 63% of republicans believe this today, as opposed to 52% in August. In the US population in general, only 42% now believe this, probably due to the fact there are numerous reports that prove there was no connection.

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The last thing we need is informed citizens voting. Let's keep the one-sided media spin and mis-information going around as long as we can. Let's marinated, lick it and roll around in it until all americans are united against our own President in the fight for terrorists rights and communist overtones!

At the very least, we can keep the anti-goverments/ anti-american sentiment going or maybe even roll it into a form of democratic communism! Now that's my goal! If I keep defecating from the mouth enough then maybe I will convince everyone else to follow my lead!

Wait maybe not, but at least I get to complain!
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As a matter of fact I heard today 63% of republicans believe this today, as opposed to 52% in August. In the US population in general, only 42% now believe this, probably due to the fact there are numerous reports that prove there was no connection.
That is absolutely embarrassing -- talk about denial. I can only assume that these folks find the thought of their leader having rushed to war against a non-player too painful to accept...

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Actually your point leaves us even more speechless.. Why not when they support their new leader John Kerry who voted for the war but refused to properly fund it so that our troops die from lack of proper armer and weapons? If you are going to be bias at least back it up with a valid point.
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....If you are going to be bias at least back it up with a valid point.
Why?
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Actually your point leaves us even more speechless.. Why not when they support their new leader John Kerry who voted for the war but refused to properly fund it so that our troops die from lack of proper armer and weapons? If you are going to be bias at least back it up with a valid point.
He voted against the armor because it wasn't good enough. Now stop with the party rhetoric and think for yourself.
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He lifted his mighty arm high, extended his moist finger towards the heavens, tested the winds, and voted. He is undeniably, the man of the moment.

He will be utterly responsive to every nuance and whim of the voters. If you want somebody who listens closely to the current buzz, vote for JFK.
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Actually your point leaves us even more speechless.. Why not when they support their new leader John Kerry who voted for the war but refused to properly fund it so that our troops die from lack of proper armer and weapons? If you are going to be bias at least back it up with a valid point.
Why not just change the subject when unable to address the point raised...more denial?

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"He voted against the armor because it wasn't good enough"

Wrong! But if that excuse is ok, then Bush can use his excuse for not downloading faulty drugs from canada for seniors. Yea sure.
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I don't know anyone of any political persuasion who is so blind as as to call all republican candidates stupid. I think Bush is stupid, but I never thought Nixon, Ford, Bush I, or Reagan were. Maybe you are over-reacting?

Your memory must not be as long as mine, or maybe you are more even-handed in your assesment of the former presidents than most liberal elitists. The democrats called Truman stupid. They called Eisenhower stupid. They called Nixon--not stupid; just EVIL. Ford was mocked and called stupid. Reagan was always called stupid.( in fact, recent democrat talking points have been to deny that Reagan had anything to do with winning the cold war, and intimating that his Alzheimers was affecting his decisions while president) And the senior Bush was called stupid. In fact, they still call all these former presidents stupid.
No, most certainly I do not think I am over reacting. It is part of the liberal playbook. Its part of the elitism appeal that (most) liberal have that they are superior in all ways, but especially intellectually. Its really hard for them to accept that intelligent people can honestly disagree with them.
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