Date registered: Sep 2004
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RE: Who Are You?
I doubt many Quakers would claim Nixon. Maybe his mother. Even she might have a hard time.
There are interesting commonalities in these sects, for example most people would be surprised to find out that Quakers and Jehovah's Witness's are both followers of the philosophy of the founder of these movements, the Englishman George Fox, although the conclusions they have arrived at are night and day.
Quakers diverge from conventional Christianity in their emphasis on the worship of the Holy Spirit and the de-emphahsis of the worship of Christ as a God, which they equate to polytheism, however Quakers impart to Christ an innate holy quality they call The Word, essentially a component of the Holy Spirit carried with in him, although Christ himself is merely a man, a belief that got them routinely invited as guests of honor to a Joan of Arc Barbecue hosted by the C of E. They originally settled in small numbers in Mass, but were driven out by the Puritans (Pilgrims) into Rhode Isand and New Hampshire, in the 1600's. They later arrived enmass in a great migration from England to PA as we all know. I'm descended from New Hampshire Quakers. I have always figured the Mennonites were related somehow to the Quakers because they both are predominate in PA and they work together actively in various peace related activities, however I know little of what actual Mennonite theology is.
Quaker theology is very mystical for a Western Religion, and seems to have much in common with Hinduism and Buddhism, which is odd given the fact that the founder, Fox,(who lived out his life in jails as he was repeatedly incarcerated for blasphmey - he is an extremely interesting character), had probably never heard of either. Its mysticism is based, as stated, on The Word (delivered by Christ) and the Holy Spirit. Essentially it is through knowledge of The Word that one is lead to direct contact with the Spirit, from which one is brought to a trancelike state from which the name "Quaker" is derived, not much different from the meditative states of the East. The Quaker religion allows only the use of the New Testament as doctrine, and only words uttered by Christ are considered the Word of God, the rest is corrupted by man and therefore suspect and unworthy of worship. I always liked that part.
I know the Mennonites share distaste for the State with Quakers - it is from the same principle that only God is worthy of worship, and no allegiance or loyalty oath is permitted to anything but Him, but I have always wonder if Mennonites had a mystical component as well.
Nixon was not the only Quaker prez. Hebert Hoover was as well, and for all the bad press he gets, he was actually the Jimmy Carter of his time - he did great works that brought famine relief to millions. Unfortunately he suffered from a mental defect, Republicanism, which caused him to make some poor judgements during the depression.
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