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MRTIKKET wrote this as a hit and run seeing as how he hasn't posted a follow up, yet the rest of us are still here hashing through this.
Golly Phat. Did you figure that out by yourself? You must be related to Einstein or something because you are a genius. Of course this was his intent. If you look at his other postings he never sticks around long enough to see the through.

the view from your soapbox must be rather distorted. There is no advocation of concentration camps. However, in order to demonstrate the absurdity of his statements you must follow them through to their probable end.

And yes I do believe the FBI tracks is aware of hate crimes. Are they about to come and knock on his door? Of course not but there is no anonimity and if he made statements like that here he has probably done it elsewhere as well.

I learned about the first amendment in high school civics. No telling how old you are but based upon your name I would guess that they did away with civics by the time you reached puberty.

Once you have lived away from the US for some time you can look in from the outside and see how pervasive the isolationism and xenophobia really is. You seem to have a pretty bad case.

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MRTIKKET wrote this as a hit and run seeing as how he hasn't posted a follow up, yet the rest of us are still here hashing through this.
Golly Phat. Did you figure that out by yourself? You must be related to Einstein or something because you are a genius. Of course this was his intent. If you look at his other postings he never sticks around long enough to see the through.

the view from your soapbox must be rather distorted. There is no advocation of concentration camps. However, in order to demonstrate the absurdity of his statements you must follow them through to their probable end.

And yes I do believe the FBI tracks is aware of hate crimes. Are they about to come and knock on his door? Of course not but there is no anonimity and if he made statements like that here he has probably done it elsewhere as well.

I learned about the first amendment in high school civics. No telling how old you are but based upon your name I would guess that they did away with civics by the time you reached puberty.

Once you have lived away from the US for some time you can look in from the outside and see how pervasive the isolationism and xenophobia really is. You seem to have a pretty bad case.
Well it didn't take too long for you to run out of wit. You addressed nothing and slung some mud. Maybe you're older than me...maybe you're not. You've got no idea how to argue though. Tell me some more about my awful case of 'isolationism and xenophobia'. Better yet...do us all a favor and stay on the other side of the pond. Jackass.
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Name calling! Now I am really impressed
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Name calling! Now I am really impressed
You ought to be - it was your idea. You want me to keep making you eat your words? Fine. You started the impressive name calling here with your last post by calling me a xenophobe. Did you think you could bait me into an argument whereas I would be forced to defend xenophobia - or is just nice and tidy to label me that way because you don't care for what I have to say? Or is it a complex? Perhaps a compensation mechanism of some sort? It doesn't really matter. I know you won't respond directly to this (starting to doubt if you read posts before responding actually) but if you do care to respond...please tell me exactly what it is in any of my posts that has caused you to label me a xenophobe.
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I am an American as much as a Native American is. So is anyone born here or anyone who chooses to pledge to my flag. Do you think living under the Union Jack means you have deeper roots somehow? Consider this, the United States has the oldest, extant Constitution in the world. No other present day government has been in business as long as ours. How's that for roots?
One quick example. I don't really feel like wasting my time to cut and paste the rest so this will have to suffice as an example.

Maybe I just mistook your arrogance (a character flaw that the rest of the world despises so passionately) for true xenophobia.
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I am an American as much as a Native American is. So is anyone born here or anyone who chooses to pledge to my flag. Do you think living under the Union Jack means you have deeper roots somehow? Consider this, the United States has the oldest, extant Constitution in the world. No other present day government has been in business as long as ours. How's that for roots?
One quick example. I don't really feel like wasting my time to cut and paste the rest so this will have to suffice as an example.

Maybe I just mistook your arrogance (a character flaw that the rest of the world despises so passionately) for true xenophobia.
HaHaHaHa. You can't even back peddle gracefully can you? I invite everyone to read that post in it's entirety on the first page of this thread to see for themselves how you tried to take an excerpt of an answer (to another one of your posts no less) and twist it into something it's not. Even the excerpt in itself has no hint of xenophobia. And then to end it off with a statement that I am being arrogant? How so, you boob? By stating that I am an American? Tell me some more about this character flaw that the world despises so much? Better yet let's keep it personal and tell me how much you hate it. Then tell me why you maintain a residence here. "the rest of the world despises so passionately" - carefeul now, you wouldn't want anyone thinking you a xenophobe. Jackass.
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I'm amazed that this thread has recieved as much response as it has.

As for name calling, if you're really too sensivitve to take someone calling you a jackass then you need to grow some stones.

Mourby, why do you lump racists with republicans? I'm a native born citizen of Mexican, Spanish, Portuguees, French, and Arabic ancestory. I'm also a very proud Repubilcan (card carrying in fact) and was once a Deomcrat. I'm not overly sensitive to race issues, even though I've been on the short side of racial descrimination. I'm under the impression that you think that all Republican's are racist, and that Democrats are not? The Deomocratic platform calls for racial preference in education and hiring. By enlarge the Democratic platform is the one that is quick to place citizens into racial catagories. Have you ever heard Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speak? These are the absolute two biggest racists in politics.

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Finally - someone has said something intelligent! Some of this racial stuff got discussed on a BMW board I attend. But not with the angle your thinking of - actually quite the opposite.

If yer interested: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/cgi-bin...&f=11&t=000158

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I see, MickeyD... [:p]
I always thought it was Mourby.

Please, if I were going to poke fun at names I could come up with something better than that. My appologies.

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