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Old 08-02-2004, 10:39 PM   #61 (permalink)
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That's easy to answer....

* All of Africa except South Africa (you count them)
* All of the Middle East except Israel
* All of Asia (IMO China is a dictatorship) except Turkey & India
* All of South America (in one way or form)
I need a little clarification please. You've offered this list of countries as extant dictatorships in the world? I'll start by admitting that since I graduated I haven't really been keeping score. I've got a BA in Political Science - but that knowledge is dated. I agree that there are some dictatorships in your (rather broad) list. You say you can name 100. True dictatorships. I'd like to know which ones they are. I have a feeling there will be an AWFUL lot of shocked people out there in the world. You left Antarctica and Australia off your list. Shall we add them now?
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This Iraqi lawyer isn't credible for the obvious reason that a bias exists within her. And I'm taking it a step further if you read what I said earlier. First you need to prove that she has a female client in prison, that this client made these allegations, that the allegations are true, etc...
And that's exactly WHY it's crediable. Because The Guardian (who does background checks before printing anything) does exactly that.
There are no words...

I have a question for you. What color is the sky in your world?
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:47 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Look Phat Benz....if you don't know world politics, i'm not going to go into detail telling you....

Most of those countries I mention do have "presidents" but suprise, suprise....unless they die, they have consecutive power...hence an oligarchy. Or they have absolute monarchs. Or military regimes when the despot is also the head of the military. Shall I go on? Or shall I just enroll you in a GED-crash course??

Oh and by the way....

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Old 08-02-2004, 10:53 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Look Phat Benz....if you don't know world politics, i'm not going to go into detail telling you....
I'll take it this means your out of BS then? Can't back up a claim so resorting to taking pot shots at my apparent lack of education. I take back everything I said or thought about your inabilty to debate an issue. You da man Mooby!
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:57 PM   #65 (permalink)
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What color is the sky in your world?
Different than your world. In your world, it's whatever color George Bush tells you it is. In despite of the reality. You are so "gung ho" that you'll refute evidence and base your arguements on flimsiest of evidence already refuted by your OWN governmental findings, just to somehow piece together in blind faith, that what Bush is doing is the right thing.

Perhaps you need to do this, as you need to justify the actions of your children's actions abroad.

Maybe it's to purify a view of America, that is now just a folklore, yet you deny these truths in order to repulse the hate that this country has generated towards it's indiginous people, it's colored people and those who follow a different way of life.

I don't know. But whatever it is, you are not coming to grips with reality. Explain the below pic in words and why it is not contradictory to the actions of this administration:



And please do better than to insult my intelligence. If it had been an Iraqi soldier with an American detainee having sex in a photo, I can swear on whatever is holy that YOU WOULD ADMIT IT WAS WHAT IT IS: RAPE.
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Old 08-02-2004, 11:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Most of those countries I mention do have "presidents" but suprise, suprise....unless they die, they have consecutive power...hence an oligarchy. Or they have absolute monarchs. Or military regimes when the despot is also the head of the military. Shall I go on? Or shall I just enroll you in a GED-crash course??

There you go, I placed in bold so you could read it better. While I don't go into detail, I do give you the basics, since I'm dealing with a person who would probably struggle with the understanding of a college-level 'World Civilization' course.

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Look Phat Benz....if you don't know world politics, i'm not going to go into detail telling you....



I'll take it this means your out of BS then? Can't back up a claim so resorting to taking pot shots at my apparent lack of education. I take back everything I said or thought about your inabilty to debate an issue. You da man Mooby!

Sorry...am I getting under your skin?? Awwwww....
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Old 08-02-2004, 11:07 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Oops ... almost forgot the ONE THING YOU CAN'T REFUTE O backer of all things George Bush...

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Old 08-02-2004, 11:23 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I won't cut and paste because this is becoming tiresome. You keep running in circles trying to make your BS stick.

The picture - the only person that seems to be impressed with it is you. Are you suggesting that the fact that there is a photo of two men together precludes them from being able to go to war?? What is that based on?

Bush - I'm not a fan of his! How's that for a surprise? But yet I'm sure you'll continue to insist that I must be because otherwise you have no 'emeny' to base your racist rhetoric on.

The dictators of the world - you can't name even a handful so you tell me your not here to discuss specifics. Convenient.

Our children over there fighting the war - Once again, a man coming from a culture which is actively campaigning and encouraging it's children to strap bombs to their chests and murder innocents ought not be judging anothers children.

The occaisional allusions you make to the US's Indigenous and minority populations are see thru attempts to sway sympathy for your vile, hateful point of view.

Are you getting under my skin? You think highly of yourself if you think that is possible.

Here's a test for you Mooby? Since you obviously have me figured out already. Who am I - your assumption is WASP, right wing, blah blah blah. Am I right? Guess again.
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I won't cut and paste because this is becoming tiresome. You keep running in circles trying to make your BS stick.
It is your BS which I find rather sickening.

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The picture - the only person that seems to be impressed with it is you. Are you suggesting that the fact that there is a photo of two men together precludes them from being able to go to war?? What is that based on?
I asked you to explain it. It must be oblivious to you as I have yet to recieve an explaination.

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Bush - I'm not a fan of his! How's that for a surprise? But yet I'm sure you'll continue to insist that I must be because otherwise you have no 'emeny' to base your racist rhetoric on.
No...I know many right-wingers who believe he's not FAR RIGHT enough for there tastes.

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The dictators of the world - you can't name even a handful so you tell me your not here to discuss specifics. Convenient.
Not only can I name a handful, but I can pronounce their names perfectly in their native tongue and point to their locations on a unlabelled map. But I don't have the two hours to TEACH you.

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Our children over there fighting the war - Once again, a man coming from a culture which is actively campaigning and encouraging it's children to strap bombs to their chests and murder innocents ought not be judging anothers children.
BWAHAHAHAH!! I'm an AMERICAN. Born and raised (although I have spent ten years in Europe). Last time I checked, they didn't do that in Brooklyn.

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The occaisional allusions you make to the US's Indigenous and minority populations are see thru attempts to sway sympathy for your vile, hateful point of view.
No it's the truth. I make no excuses for what America was or is.

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Are you getting under my skin? You think highly of yourself if you think that is possible.
I could swear I was. Your comment about 'my culture' and 'strapping bombs' refutes your claim actually, is was an attempt to get under my skin. A futile attempt nevertheless.

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Here's a test for you Mooby? Since you obviously have me figured out already. Who am I - your assumption is WASP, right wing, blah blah blah. Am I right? Guess again.
No, I know who you are. A Hispanic who passes for an Arab...and gets harrassed from time to time. Not uncommon to see in South Florida. You already mentioned it prior, Sherlock.

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Old 08-03-2004, 04:59 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Yes it is a pretty dammning picture. The republicans don't like to admit that it was Bush Sr. (who ran all the nasty programs to arm middle eastern tyrants including Bin Laden himself) that started Iraq's chemical weapons program. One only has to look at the list of more than 80 agents the CDC provided to Iraq in the mid-eighties (and approved by the Reagan Administration) to know where they got their help from. Saddam gased his own people with help from the Republicans running the USA at the time.

The same neo-Cons running the government now, trumped up the WMDs issue to get permission to invade Iraq fully expecting to find them there once they defeated the government. What they didn't count on was that Saddam had actually complied with the UN demands and got rid of the weapons and the programs.

Now the USA has a big mess on its hands that has so far cost over 900 American lives, more than 11,000 Iraqi lives, tens of thousands maimed and injured on both sides, and $200 Billion in wasted taxpayer money, with no plan to get us out of there. Oh and don't forget, the majority of Iraqi's now hate Americans as well. All of this from a ChickenHawk leadership who when it was their turn to serve in the military took every advantage of their family connections to avoid being drafted into serivce.




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