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I would stop reading 'They're Out To Get Us'-type publications and take a real world view of the Middle East if I were you. Try www.bbc.co.uk for news instead of Fox for a start.
Now that tells a story doesn't it. The good ol' BBC. There's credibility for ya.

Merouby, we will agree to disgree. Your distorted view of the situation is clearly based on sources that just cannot be blieved. The BBC is liberal rag of a company. Directors are now resigning over their distortion of the facts. Heck, their reporting led one UK official to kill himself.

Wake up bud. The gov't of the Saudis, French, and the UN are not US allies no matter what people say. Our relationship is purely based on economics, and I do not necessarily believe that is justified.

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i guess we will agree to disagree then.
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Iraq DIDNT declare war on the US. Why not say what it is - the killing of the annoying brown people!!

Why beat around the bush (or should I say Pres. Bush)?
There you go turning this into a race issue. Color has nothing to do with it.

In case you haven't been paying attention in recent days we have recovered secret Iraqi documents that show direct ties to the 9/11 murderers.

Iraq has been openly against the US for years has has been plotting a way to attack the US.

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Andy,

I know for a fact that's a load of bologne. But on the whole, it's good to see two sides of the argument here rather than just the government line all the time, isn't it?
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I would be interested to hear what you think we should do.

There are people who want us dead because we let our women vote, drive, and wear bikinis.

They want us dead because we tolerate the drinking of alchohol and we let women go to school.

They want us dead because we protect Israel-the country full of Jews they want dead.

They want us dead because of the morally bankrupt culture that Hollywood vomits across the world. (Ironic that the same liberals responsible for the rage Islamo-facists harbor against us are, at the same time, their biggest advocates against our government. Tim Robbins would be first in line for a beheading if those he supports succeed.)

I will tell you what I know for a fact. We have the power to wipe all of those you refer to as "brown people" from the face of the Earth. We can walk in and seize the oil and nothing can stop us. We could declare Israel the 51st state.

We could declare a crusade against Islam.

If what you believe were true, we would do so.

We don't and never will because we are morally superior.

Can you tell me why you disagree?

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Merouby-

I would be interested to hear what you think we should do.

There are people who want us dead because we let our women vote, drive, and wear bikinis.

They want us dead because we tolerate the drinking of alchohol and we let women go to school.

They want us dead because we protect Israel-the country full of Jews they want dead.

They want us dead because of the morally bankrupt culture that Hollywood vomits across the world. (Ironic that the same liberals responsible for the rage Islamo-facists harbor against us are, at the same time, their biggest advocates against our government. Tim Robbins would be first in line for a beheading if those he supports succeed.)

I will tell you what I know for a fact. We have the power to wipe all of those you refer to as "brown people" from the face of the Earth. We can walk in and seize the oil and nothing can stop us. We could declare Israel the 51st state.

We could declare a crusade against Islam.

If what you believe were true, we would do so.

We don't and never will because we are morally superior.

Can you tell me why you disagree?

Respectfully,

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Oh my God where to start.

Well first let's make it clear this is a great post, hit the nail on the head. There's even a full name on it, showing how much you're willing to support it.

As for the other guy...study the Middle East and the Ottoman Empire, who has been mad at us since World War I for basically winning. Sorry if we won but that's how the world turns. And they're still trying revenge.

Funny how we allow them to exist peacefully, but they dislike our Hollywood, the right of a woman to vote, etc. Hmm so they come and kill how many thousands of people for it? So you're saying...that all those families that lost a member on September 11th, should give in and say there should be no war or reparations because we haven't studied it enough? DAMN THEM!! They killed 3000 of our people and ARE STILL KILLING IN IRAQ. Tell me, you allow that to happen and still defend them? THEN GO LIVE THERE! Seriously if you don't like the President's policies and think so much of the Middle East why not just go. It's appaling that you do not feel anger when you hear some American soldier got shot down in Iraq. We just liberated them of a brutal liberator and they thank us by giving us a shot in the ass, and you're implying that somewhere, we come out in the wrong in this. Somebody's son or daughter, possible a father or mother, a husband or wife, is killed so often in Iraq because of our efforts to help Iraq, and somehow we come out in the wrong. Absolutely appaling that someone can say that.
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Damn, answering y'all back has become something of a full-time job!

Liberated?? That's the biggest farce there is. Thousands of Iraqis - innocent men, women & children were left dead & dismembered. Much more than what we dealt with in 911. I guess they were 'liberated' too. We are an INVADING force in Iraq. The Iraqi resistance movements are killing the invaders and defending their country. If the shoe was on the other foot and Russians invaded America to get rid of GWB, then believe you me, i'd be part of the resistance movement as well. Remember, the Iraqis never asked us to invade their country.

We didnt go into Iraq to 'liberate' the people - we went APPARENTLY to stop a WMD program - that never existed. We didnt enter Vietnam to liberate the South Vietnamese, but to stop the spread of Communism. There's a potent simile.

We are selling the Iraqis their own oil and overcharging them for it. The same company actually also overcharged the US government and was forced to give the difference back. But they continue to overcharge the Iraqis. Sounds like good 'ol 'Liberation' again.

Their religion and culture has nothing to do with us - i agree. But you paint a picture as if they're out to get us. That is sooo far from the truth. I have had Arab friends and they actually love our freedoms and what we stand for. Only the fundementalists are the ones that cause the havoc. I dont think millions of people want us dead, guys. Honestly. And in most Arab countries women do drive & vote.

I believe the biggest threat to world peace today is Bush. And I know if Gore were elected (which BTW won the most VOTES) we'd have a more peaceful world & 500 US soldiers would be alive today.
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Their religion and culture has nothing to do with us - i agree. But you paint a picture as if they're out to get us. That is sooo far from the truth. I have had Arab friends and they actually love our freedoms and what we stand for. Only the fundementalists are the ones that cause the havoc. I dont think millions of people want us dead, guys. Honestly. And in most Arab countries women do drive & vote.

I believe the biggest threat to world peace today is Bush. And I know if Gore were elected (which BTW won the most VOTES) we'd have a more peaceful world & 500 US soldiers would be alive today.
What a lie...they ARE out to get us. Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein and all his supporters, are they not "out to get us"? Your Arab friends love the way we live, that's why they're here. You hate Bush, that's why you should be over there in the Middle East, probably planning an attack on American soldiers. Women drive in Arab countries but vote? I don't think so...

If Gore was elected, maybe we would have had a lot more terrorist attacks because of how he wants to handle these kind of things. Then we'd have thousands more CIVILIANS dead instead of soldiers who already knew that they were willing to die for their country, trying to protect YOU.

If you think we are the invader, then go live in Iraq and go plot some attack on American soldiers, because I don't want America to waste it's army resources if you don't want to be protected.
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I think you're going a bit outta line here....

So if I dont support Bush or didnt vote for him, then that makes me a criminal plotting to kill our soldiers....hmmm?? Over half the country didnt want him into office. Think about that.

I didnt think that you either had to support the Bush administration (and it's decisions) or leave the country. This isn't Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany, you know.

I tried to have an intellectual conversation here with a competing point-of-view, but instead I see that I have to deal with responses made up of childlike-ridicule. Honestly, since it's come down to this, i'll decline to comment further. My point has been made clearly. Besides, as has been said earlier, this is a MB forum, not a in-depth forum on world affairs.

I bet that if I went to a German MB forum and this topic was raised, i'd have a lot more symphatic responses in my arguement's favor.
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I think you're going a bit outta line here....

So if I dont support Bush or didnt vote for him, then that makes me a criminal plotting to kill our soldiers....hmmm?? Over half the country didnt want him into office. Think about that.

I didnt think that you either had to support the Bush administration (and it's decisions) or leave the country. This isn't Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany, you know.

I tried to have an intellectual conversation here with a competing point-of-view, but instead I see that I have to deal with responses made up of childlike-ridicule. Honestly, since it's come down to this, i'll decline to comment further. My point has been made clearly. Besides, as has been said earlier, this is a MB forum, not a in-depth forum on world affairs.

I bet that if I went to a German MB forum and this topic was raised, i'd have a lot more symphatic responses in my arguement's favor.
You are the one who is going on and on about how Bush sucks. I'm just saying if you dislike him so much and support Iraq so much, you are very welcome to leave the country.
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