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View Poll Results: Why did you buy/lease a Mercedes?
Looks 1,198 20.72%
Performance 1,031 17.83%
Prestige 1,369 23.67%
Safety 536 9.27%
Value 971 16.79%
Other 678 11.72%
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post #611 of 1335 (permalink) Old 09-06-2010, 05:01 PM
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Long Hauler.
You won't get an argument from me on your points at all.
Reliability has definitely dropped since my first Benz.
I have a feeling I will be shopping for a differing brand after this car, strictly due to reliability issues, rust and nuisances. And I'm only at the 150k mi. mark.
I always run cars (even cars besides Benz) to 250k mi. And generally without too much out of pocket

All I will say to defend the brand is they do certain things other cars do not.
BUT, I can say that about my Mustang GT. It will (dollar for dollar) whoop the crap out of a Benz in straight line and hang tight in cornering with the BMW's .
But it is a one purpose machine.
Benz's seem to be an all around good compromise. You want something specific, you shop for it.

So I do love Benz's, but I also put them into perspective.
I do love their solid feel, and their high speed capabilities for long times.

Ok, now it's my turn to get slashed as well........

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post #612 of 1335 (permalink) Old 09-06-2010, 05:16 PM
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If I had payed $85,000 in 1987 and got this kind of reliability I would have been choked (someone else might have been choked too,but we'll save that story!) As it is, I spent $1250 for this beautiful car and plan on dumping another $20,000 into it. I figure I'll have an awesome ride for $25,000. Now THAT'S value...with prestige!
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Likewise

My 190E was $25k new.
I paid $4k, with 75k mi, on the clock and have driven it 120k mi, since.
Problems have been minimal.

My E320 was $55k new.
I paid $6k, with 110k on the clock, and have drive it 35k mi. since.
Problems have been major, but I do my own repairs. Still, it is not a trustworthy car, and the need for parts on this car as well as rust issues has been subpar. I would have been better off with another Ford.

I don't buy Japanese or Korean due to the trade practices with the US (we can't sell ours there).

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Listen guys and gals, these are nice cars, these are beautiful cars, they are luxurious, classy, powerful, suave, blah, blah, blah and I like them, I really, really like them. I bought my first one early this year and then bought 2 more. But lets be honest...reliable?!, well engineered!!?? Some people here even have the nerve to dump on Asian built vehicles! My 86 Toyota Land Cruiser HJ61, my 76 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40, my wife's old Toyota Corolla, my 69 Ford F250 are all far more reliable and in a lot of ways better engineered than my 560 SEL. I don't mean to rattle any one's cage here but it's a car, designed and built by humans, it's got a lot of good points, a lot of great points, but it's a frickin car! Thank god the person that started this poll didn't put reliability as one of the selling points! I'm used to getting 300,000km out of a well built gasoline drivetrain, I'll be lucky to get half that out of my 560. Timing chains fail at 100,000, tranny's at 200,000, idling problems, no start problems, sls issues and the list goes on. Just like it does for a lot of vehicles out there.

And somebody should look up the definition of prestige. I love the "honour and esteem bestowed on me, by others, for my impeccable taste and discerning habits. Whether I'm shooting my SIG or my Browning, 4 wheeling in one of my Land Cruisers, escorting my wife on my arm or picking up a client that earns more in a day than I do in a year, I love the looks and nods of approval I get when I soire with the best. Prestige has nothing to do with being snobby, uppity or a show off. It's about about appreciating quality and I dare anyone on this site to say they don't appreciate the nods of approval they get when they pull up in their S Class Mercedes.

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I am an Indian and grew up in India. The W126 were the models that I grew up with in India. I remember that I would look longingly at them as a kid and peer into them, soaking up every exterior & interior details of these cars. I promised myself that this will be the very 1st car I would buy and own. Then, I grew up and started buying cars for my own use. The Mercedes were prohibitevely priced due to the government's import tax of 150% and out of my reach. I bought a Fiat (always giving electrical trouble & a PIA car but inexpensive to fix due to mechanics at all street corners), Suzuki (The 1st modern car available to the public in India at a reasonable price. Mine was an Esteem - underpowered, but reliable with the usual Japanese No-Fuss attitude) and the Opel (Astra - always giving mechanical problems.) But, I never forgot the Mercedes.

Then, I came to USA bought an old Toyota Celica, when in Houston. Nice drive and it did what it was supposed to - drive me to point B from point A and back. I did not feel safe in it & there was no emotional attachment to the car. It was simply a car. But, I never forgot the Mercedes. It was a dream for me to own it, one day. I sold the Celica when I moved to NYC and never thought once of it.

I got married, my wife got pregnant and had to start looking for a car. As luck would have it, on my way to pick up my wife, I saw a 1989 300SE for sale. There were a few niggling issues when I bought it. A leaking transmission, some small body rust, no service history, a less than ideal a/c and an arm rest that has seen better days. Instead of being calm & rationale, I still went and bought this car as I was thinking from my heart (&dick) instead of being patient and searching elswhere for a nicer maintained model (preferably the 420SE). It was THE model that I had grew up with and lusted after. I knew it had a transmission leak and was aware some parts will be needed to changed. The exterior and the interior did not matter to me as I knew what colour I wanted to repaint with and how I finally wanted the interior to be.

So, why did I buy a Mercedes and this Mercedes?

1. It was a childhood ambition that I was achieving.
2. There is always a safety & a reliability feeling that only a Mercedes and a Volvo gives.
3. This Mercedes has a steel gauge for a body that the present day cars lack.
4. Once done, it will be a beautiful car to admire and lust for.
5. Even in it's present semi-dilapidated condition, it still gets admiring looks, even from more latest version owners on the highway. I have had 2006 model owners coming over to admire the car and it's engine, when in the garage, commenting on how safe & over engineered the 300SE is and how beautiful the engine is (I personally think that for a 300SE, it's under powered).
6. This is the only car that I will trust my wife and baby in and I am a paranoid person when it comes to these 2 people in my life.
7. I love Mercedes-Benz W126 and W124 models.

I hope that I've answered your question satisfactorily.

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The G was a bitter disappointment with 11 workshop visits in the first 8 months. The Unimog has problems due to age, but after 30 years that's normal. It is old school MB quality.
I have been a BMW driver for the past 25 years and after the G experience it will stay that way for my non-truck cars.
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I spent some time in South America in 1980 doing oil exploration in the the Amazon river basin. We flew a complete seismic operation down to Guyana in Herc transport planes. Our trucks were all specially rigged chevies. 1/2,3/4, 1 and 5 tons that had survived years working in some of the worst country Canada could throw at them. After a couple of months struggling through the Amazon jungle every one of them had bent frames. I noticed that the only vehicles in any numbers were Toyota Land Cruisers, both wagons and shorties and Suzukis. I'd see the occasional Land Rover and the Cuban military "advisors" had some unimogs but NOTHING else. That's where I got my love of Land Cruisers from.
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Both of my MBs were impulse buys guided by childhood dreams.
The G was a bitter disappointment with 11 workshop visits in the first 8 months. The Unimog has problems due to age, but after 30 years that's normal. It is old school MB quality.
I have been a BMW driver for the past 25 years and after the G experience it will stay that way for my non-truck cars.
Strange. The G class models were supposed to be stress & hassle free.

Mercedes-Benz G-Class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe, yours must be an aberration. Sorry to hear about your problems with the G.

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I spent some time in South America in 1980 doing oil exploration in the the Amazon river basin. We flew a complete seismic operation down to Guyana in Herc transport planes. Our trucks were all specially rigged chevies. 1/2,3/4, 1 and 5 tons that had survived years working in some of the worst country Canada could throw at them. After a couple of months struggling through the Amazon jungle every one of them had bent frames. I noticed that the only vehicles in any numbers were Toyota Land Cruisers, both wagons and shorties and Suzukis. I'd see the occasional Land Rover and the Cuban military "advisors" had some unimogs but NOTHING else. That's where I got my love of Land Cruisers from.
Amongst 4 wheel drives, my faves are:

1. The old Willy's Jeeps (Can still be found in India).
2. Land Rovers
3. Mitsubishi Pajeros/Monteros in US
4. Toyota Land Cruisers
5. Suzuki

I initially wanted to buy a Range Rover instead of a Mercedes W126, but got scared by the reviews online and the maintaneance probs in 2nd hand models.

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I bought my Mercedes for two reasons.

1) The Continental R was a bit too ostentatious and noticeable. With the economy being what it is I felt driving that Bentley was a little too much. Too many people out of work, too many people losing what they worked so hard for their entire life, etc., etc.
The last thing I want is some stranger to make some stupid assumptions about me based upon what I drive. People heard stories about Bentley's (most not true) and from that they somehow get an idea as to how fast it is, how much it costs, who drives one, etc. It's a good car, a great car in fact but still only a car.
On the other hand Mercedes, in Chicago at least, are about as rare as a Black man in Africa, (Catholics in the Vatican, Blondes in Sweden, Un-indicted coconspirators in Washington, etc.) they're pretty much everywhere you look so no one bothers to give them a second glance. The only people impressed with them are the just off the boat Eastern European cocktail waitresses from towns where the phone numbers have 3 digits.
Besides, the 500E, at 10 in the city, gets about 30% better gas mileage and is almost as fast.

2) I lived in Europe for almost 3 years and grew fond of the 124 Taxi's.
Solid, roomy, reliable and dependable. Sort of like that old shirt or pair of jeans that has seen better days but you just can't bring yourself to throw away. The 124-036 has the same feel, with just minimal attention it could go on forever. On the other hand the Bentley, in many ways, is like the aging supermodel, still good looking after all these years but more and more demanding on time and money as time goes on. Bought new in 94 it now has some 8500 miles, any more and I'd be in bankruptcy court I fear.

As an FYI....
I just found a genuine M-B Taxi sign and roof bar so as soon as it arrives I'll set about restoring it to make my 20K miles 500E one of the lowest mileage, not to mention one of the fastest, Taxi's in the world I bet.
Pics to come after installation.
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As a kid, I lived next door to the Mercedes Dealers in Moree, Northern NSW.
Leo Reiner was a great bloke, and they were always over at our place hanging out with mum and dad. I was their babysitter...

It was then, (1973-4) that I found out that Mercedes Benz does not just mean "prestige", it means solid pure gold quality that is ultra-reliable.

As a kid, I said to myself I was determined to have a car that was not only air conditioned (it used to be 45 degrees C during the six to eight weeks of summer with boiling hot upholstery that would blister skin) but had to be comfortable (Sydney was 800km away) reliable enough to survive an aussie road climate, and be virtually bullet proof.

I bought a new 'Generally Motored' car after leaving home, and it was the proverbial axe that I had for 15 years... you know, the one that has three handles, and four heads...

Well it did do three times round the clock, but had a NEW ENGINE every 100,000Km, forever being repaired - wheel bearings, water pump, fuel pump, fuel tank, seats... and in the end it had to GO.

Several reliably cra**y supposed reliable cars later, and thinking back on the Leo Reiner years, I just said; "Stuff this for a joke, I'm going to get a Benz"

So I did. A W124, 230E that I use as my work car, and I clock up 100,000Km a year with ease in that. Reliable? Comfortable? My bloody oath.

I still use it - for work, and as a special ride I decided to get a 400SEL (W140) which is proving just as bloody good.

Money well spent?

Considering I drive up to 1000km a week, and may never see another car for hours, with dodgy phone reception; YES.

Would I buy another; YES.
and my next car WILL be a Benz.

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