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Once a dirt bag...

It looks like the old DB bought his way out of it. I believe it is a sad day for justice and for F1.

Burnie pays $100,000,000.00 to end the bribary trial.

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the more things change, the more they stay the same

Somerset Maugham once called Monaco; "A Sunny Place for Shady People."
He might as well been talking about Formula 1.
When Bernie got started in F1, beside a few works teams, the sport attracted Gentlemen racers as well as a good number of dubious characters whose money came from questionable sources.
Ecclestone and Mosley managed to get rid of most.

Much later, this included a German guy who hustled the sale of the old Jaguar team around the Middle East for $6 mio.
My brother in law was part of the Dubai group who looked into buying the team.
I still have the file.
I think Red Bull finally bought the team from Ford for one dollar.
Remember last years Mansoor Ijaz / Quantum weird investment saga around Lotus?
Already a team where characters of champagne glass Eric Lux caliber can be found, who perhaps don't exactly reflect paragons of virtue either.
Even old Flavio looks like one of those guys you meet and might have the urge to wash your hands right after.
A little reminder of what used to be.
If we take a closer look behind the fancy facade, perhaps less has changed than we assumed.
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Society in decline I guess. Perhaps the saddest part is that he is not run out of town and it is just excepted.

Where is the ballance in penalising a team for a loose wheel but let Bernie run the sport ragged for his own interests.

I think Lauda should knock Burnies head off and take charge.
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The fish rots at the head.

And this is the second reason Bernie should be shown the exit door.

Willie Weber has a few words about the decline in popularity of F1.

Willi Weber has blamed self-interested bosses and wimpy drivers as the reason why Formula 1's viewer numbers are declining.

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This season, despite efforts to entice fans back to the sport, viewer numbers have once again taken a hit.
This was most noticeable at the German GP where around 50,000 tickets were sold compared to the 120,000 of yesteryear.
And Weber, best known for being Michael Schumacher's first manager, believes Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt bear some of the responsibility.
"There are many reasons for the decline of the Formula 1," he said in an interview with Sport Bild.
"First, the fish rots at the head.
"Bernie Ecclestone is much too old to embrace the age of new media while FIA president Jean Todt lacks the power to enforce.
"These men think only of their own interests."
The 72-year-old, though, doesn't believe the blame rests solely with those in charge and hit out at the sport's current crop of drivers.
"Who wants to see the wimps of today crying on the radio.
"There are no more characters like Ayrton Senna, Jacques Villeneuve and Michael Schumacher were.
"They would not complain on the radio but give their answer on the track."
Added to that, he says, it all comes in an "ugly" package thanks to this year's car.

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Agreed (A Greed) regarding Bernie and self interests. Why else would half the circuits be in godforsaken places that only have money (not fans) going for them.

And on the subject of a lack of driver characters, its not surprising because the top cars almost drive themselves. There are too many instances of people who have never been in F1 getting into a car and running within a half second of the primary driver of the car.

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Drive themselves? Is Google coming to F1?

I have owned a number of fast cars and even competed a bit (hill climb), but I doubt I would be able to move the most un competitive car on the F1 grid at just 60% of its possible lap time.
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Drive themselves? Is Google coming to F1?

I have owned a number of fast cars and even competed a bit (hill climb), but I doubt I would be able to move the most un competitive car on the F1 grid at just 60% of its possible lap time.
Me too. I have many years lapping Bridgehampton under my belt (an expanding belt too these days) but I too would not be able to put in a competitive time in an F1 car. I am not too embarrassed to say I would be scared to death in a current F1 car. Aside from that, I didn't grow up with the video game set so the multiple modes, adjustments, and tricks available at the steering wheel are something I would struggle with. That said, the gaps between primary drivers and competitive drivers outside of F1 who get their first attempt at driving an F1 car are astonishingly slim.

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Bridgehampton...you dated yourself. Ever make it to the old Luodon track. That was some charactor builder.

Yes the gap between some of the new comers to the vets are slim...like Riccardo, Magnuson and Bottas.
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Any of your guys ever drove Zandvoort, Holland? Tarzan's paw is one wicked corner.
Ricciardo is a breath of fresh air. The TV screen can barely contain his grin.
Bottas just lets his drive do the talking, but is a polished conversationalist compared to Raikkonen.
I think Hulkenberg deserves a top drive, and further down the grid both Kvyat and Bianchi have shown sparks.
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I agree with you about Kvyat and Hulk. Thumbs up. One of the best results this year for me was Jules Bianchi getting his and Marussia's first piont. Loved it. I hope he gets a good ride soon.

Now the talk is about the great ralley driver Carlos Sainz boy coming in. There is a lot of new tallent ready to come into the sport.
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