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I think he got some short term ass ripping from Toto and Niki.


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Yes I am sure you are right on about that. It is funny that some people are steadfast in one camp or another and not too much crossover.

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No room for friendship as Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton battle for the title

No room for friendship as Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton battle for the title | Features & Experts | Sky Sports Formula 1

Only Nico Rosberg can truly know whether his mistake during qualifying for the Monaco GP was deliberate or not.

But in lighting the fuse at Mercedes, and effectively securing pole for a race Nico proceeded to win comfortably, it was a mistake which shaped the weekend and one which could well shape the rest of the season too.

Did he or didn't he do it deliberately? My own gut instinct is that his actions and error were not intentional. Admittedly, I was in a minority in the paddock with that view, but having said that there were many people I respect, and whose views I value, who were also eager to give Nico the benefit of the doubt. There was plenty of room for suspicion but as one former driver put it to me, it would have required an awful lot of premeditation - and thinking inside the car - for his lap to start unravelling between the exit of Casino Square and Mirabeau.

Hamilton - 'We're not friends'
We can learn a lot from Monaco - and, in particular, about Nico. He knew he had to stop the rout after four defeats on the bounce and I found his response to events in qualifying especially telling. There was no attempt to explain or excuse himself and he just batted away all the questions and suspicions like water off a duck's back. As the paddock went nuclear around him, the fall-out just seemed to bounce off him. There was a steeliness to Nico which we haven't seen before.

In contrast, the incident did seem to affect Lewis Hamilton. As plenty of people have pointed out since, Lewis wasn't exactly shy in complaining about his lot both during and after the race. His gritty left eye did look swollen on the podium but he curiously played that problem down after the race. But while it's easy to accuse Lewis of whinging and being petulant, that does tend to be the way of a champion. Think of Senna, think of Mansell - they were never shy in displaying their discontent in public. One characteristic all the champions have in common is selfishness. Utterly self-focused, the one thing they all want is an unfair advantage in their favour. The flip side is that they simply can't tolerate someone else having that advantage. It hurts them badly when they do - that's their weakness.

So where does it leave us for the rest of the year? Hamilton and Rosberg are bound to be looking at 2014 in exactly the same way that we are all looking at it: that one of them is going to win the World Championship and it's only their team-mate who can stop them. They might well have been friends once - I remember them well as teenagers bouncing around the F1 paddock together - but with a championship on the line any semblance of friendship has gone out of the window.

For Mercedes, it's a very delicate situation and it will be very interesting to see how Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda play it. They are - like Lewis and Nico - two very different characters. Toto is the more PR-orientated and media savvy. Niki, as you might have noticed during my interview on the grid in Monaco when he happily admitted that Lewis had used a higher engine setting in Spain, is an open book and remarkably frank. He's unlikely to dodge a question.

Independently, both Niki and Toto said on Sunday night that they will sort the situation out with their drivers. What I'm interested to see is who exactly does do that sorting out, how they intend to do that, and how they agree to manage it. It's certainly going to be very difficult for them both not to get dragged into a very delicate situation and I can easily foresee this becoming a four-way dynamic. Don't forget it was Niki who was the pivotal force in bringing Lewis to Mercedes in 2012 when he wore him down with hours of persuasion in his hotel room in Singapore. Not that Lewis is complaining about that.


For the rest of us on the outside, it's become brilliant viewing. The rivalry between Nico and Lewis is what the fans want to see. There's always plenty of interest in the cars, the technology and the lifestyle, but what people really care about is the drivers. Just look at the amount of debate the Monaco weekend has already generated. It has stirred the emotions and passions - and that's exactly what sport ought to be doing.

Meanwhile, congratulations to Marussia for scoring their first and well-deserved points in a chaotic race. There were some clumsy overtakes which reminded us that the brake-by-wire systems are still relatively immature, and a few other silly mistakes. Fernando Alonso was curiously anonymous for a second consecutive year in Monaco, which is odd for a two-time winner. And Daniel Ricciardo continues to dominate Sebastian Vettel, who somehow just stopped himself from totally blowing a fuse on the pit radio.

Pete Bonnington, Lewis's engineer, probably wishes Hamilton had a slightly longer fuse as Pete seems to be damned if he does get on the radio and damned if he doesn't. Mind you, we all have to respect and remember that when we get angry and curse, we don't have a few hundred million people listening to us as we dance an F1 car around the streets of Monaco.
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Davidson and Herbert scrutineering Nico's Q1 crash. The skill he would needed to pull this off is is epic. If he had such skill he would not need to crash to beat Lewis. Check it out and see.

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Davidson and Herbert scrutineering Nico's Q1 crash. The skill he would needed to pull this off is is epic. If he had such skill he would not need to crash to beat Lewis. Check it out and see.

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+ 1, the car's data would have been the tell.
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CHIESA: ROSBERG DOES HAMILTON’S DIRTY WORK
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Fourteen years on, little has changed between Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg, according to their former karting boss Dino Chiesa.

In 2000, the duo were teammates at Team MBM, the kart team sponsored by AMG (Mercedes) and McLaren, which was run by Chiesa, who told Bild am Sonntag newspaper on Sunday: “On his fast lap, Lewis was always a little faster than Nico. He knew it well and he knows it today.”

“But Rosberg has always worked harder. [Rosberg] has always done the dirty work – the setup, working with the mechanics and the engineers.

“Lewis has never worked as hard as Nico behind the scenes,” said Chiesa, when asked about the past in the context of the pair’s massive falling-out as they battle for the world championship in 2014 as Mercedes teammates.

“One of them has the talent, the other is fast but is more of a thinker. And then Lewis cuts a piece of Nico’s cake and sells it as his own.”

Chiesa said that Briton Hamilton and German Rosberg also got up to their ‘psychological games’ in karts all those years ago.

“Yes, but of course on a different scale,” he revealed. “At the time I was the team manager, but I was also like a counsellor or a father.

“I remember some angry phone calls from the hotel reception. Sometimes they had destroyed the room. It started with a thrown cushion, then a blanket, then the mattress was out on the street. It was all fun except that I always paid the bill at the end.”

Chiesa said Monaco 2014, however, was slightly different, “Lewis behaved a bit like a young, angry Italian. Nothing is ever his fault. He always thinks others are out to hurt him.

“But you have to understand this is a German team with a German driver who has been there for three years already. It feels to Lewis as if the team is a bit more friendly to Nico. It’s normal.”

Chiesa said that he still talks regularly to Rosberg, but not to Hamilton, “It is difficult to get to him. His management is not very helpful. It may be good for a Hollywood star, but not for a Formula 1 driver. These people give the impression of him being a superstar.

“But a motor sport race is not a show, it’s hard work. So I think it’s right that Niki Lauda brought him back down to earth,” said Chiesa, perhaps referring to Hamilton’s smaller entourage and apparently clearer focus in 2014.

Meanwhile, ex Formula 1 driver Alex Zanardi has told La Gazzetta dello Sport that Hamilton will beat Rosberg to the title this year, “I only want to say one thing about their rivalry. Nico is a very strong driver, but Lewis is a champion.” (GMM)
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Ouch. That is going to leave a mark.
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