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Barcelona, the final test!

Teams test rules to limit at Barcelona test
Racing series F1
Date 2010-02-25

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As ever in Formula One, rules are being pushed to the limit, as the Barcelona pitlane revealed on Thursday.

The wheel covers that became commonplace in F1 last year have been banned, but at the Spanish circuit Ferrari was testing an innovation on the wheels of the F10 car.

Even though Fernando Alonso's progress was halted with an early technical problem, it was clear that his wheels have taken on a more aerodynamic shape since the Jerez test last week.

To ban the 2009-like wheel covers, this year's rules state that no devices may be physically attached to the wheels or wheel nuts.

But while the F10's wheels resembled the other conventional wheels on track last week, on Thursday at Barcelona they included circular inner rims that appear to have been designed with airflow in mind.

Another rule for 2010 states that "powered devices which assist in lifting any part of a car are forbidden in the pitlane during a race".

But at Mercedes GP, mechanics were testing new quick-release pit jacks that operate with the use of purely mechanical and spring-loaded triggers, rather than electronics or pneumatics.

There have also been some insider rumblings - most notably from within Red Bull Racing - about the design of the new McLaren MP4-25 car.

It is believed that some of the air flowing into the airbox above Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button's heads is being channelled not to the engine, but also to the rear of the car for aerodynamic purposes.

Also on Thursday, Virgin's woes continued. After the new British team's Jerez test was marred by hydraulic troubles, Lucas di Grassi crashed the VR-01 when the Barcelona test kicked off.

He hit the barriers with the rear of the car in turn 9, causing significant damage to the black and red single seater.

Mark Webber's Red Bull was the fastest runner at the time of the latest red flag around lunchtime.
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Driver Team Time Behind
1 Webber Red Bull 1m22.017s +0.000
2 Hulkenberg Williams 1m22.684s +0.667
3 Rosberg Mercedes 1m23.709s +1.692
4 de la Rosa Sauber 1m23.783s +1.766
5 Button McLaren 1m24.582s +2.565
6 Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1m24.968s +2.951
7 Liuzzi Force India 1m25.303s +3.286
8 Alonso Ferrari 1m26.401s +4.384
9 Di Grassi Virgin 1m28.109s +6.092
10 Petrov Renault 1m29.455s +7.438
11 Fauzy Lotus 1m29.795s +7.778
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Unofficial Thursday times from Barcelona:
1. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:21.487, 109 Laps
2. Nico Hulkenberg, Williams, 1:22.407, 82 Laps
3. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:22.514, 107 Laps
4. Pedro de la Rosa, BMW Sauber, 1:23.144, 73 Laps
5. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:23.452, 101 Laps
6. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 1:24.064, 65 Laps
7. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:24.170, 74 Laps
8. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:24.173, 74 Laps
9. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:24.869, 111 Laps
10. Lucas di Grassi, Virgin, 1:27.057, 31 Laps
11. Fairuz Fauzy, Lotus, 1:28.002, 76 Laps
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Unofficial Friday times from Barcelona:
1. Nico Hulkenberg, Williams, 1:20.614, 99 Laps
2. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:20.637, 133 Laps
3. Pedro de la Rosa, BMW Sauber, 1:20.973, 114 Laps
4. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 1:21.056, 90 Laps
5. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:21.258, 125 Laps
6. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:21.571, 104 Laps
7. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:21.689, 85 Laps
8. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:22.152, 93 Laps
9. Robert Kubica, Renault, 1:24.912, 53 Laps
10. Jarno Trulli, Lotus, 1:25.524, 70 Laps
11. Timo Glock, Virgin, 1:25.942, 52 Laps
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Unofficial Saturday times from Barcelona:
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:20.686, 128 Laps
2. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 1:21.413, 106 Laps
3. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:21.450, 105 Laps
4. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:21.975, 101 Laps
5. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:22.344, 115 Laps
6. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:22.523, 68 Laps
7. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:22.606, 61 Laps
8. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:23.123, 51 Laps
9. Jarno Trulli, Lotus, 1:25.059, 102 Laps
10. Kamui Kobayashi, BMW Sauber, 1:26.216, 105 Laps
11. Timo Glock, Virgin, 1:26.305, 31 Laps
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Schumacher backtracks after saying Merc not ready to win
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Date 2010-02-27

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Michael Schumacher on Saturday steered away from claims his 2010 car might not be a winning one.

When asked 24 hours ago whether the W01 Mercedes car will travel to Bahrain next month as the favourite, he told reporters at the Barcelona test: "Maybe not."

But as he spoke to the media again on Saturday, as his teammate Nico Rosberg set the pace at the showery venue in front of more than 20,000 Spaniards, the seven time world champion sang a different tune.

"This was an initial feeling and it looks like that maybe we were running more fuel than others on Friday and that is why track times didn't look so good," said the German, who is 41.

"Now I've looked at the data it looks not so bad, it looks very reasonable. So let's see where we are in reality," Schumacher added.

However, the winner of a record 91 grands prix repeated his feeling that he might not be at the top of the podium immediately this season.

"Yesterday I was a little bit pessimistic but after studying the data last night actually it looks more reasonable than I thought," he said.

Schumacher said "several" teams look set to battle for supremacy early in 2010, but admitted that Ferrari's Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, "at the moment, look the target".
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Barcelona Day 3 – Mercedes faster than it looked

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Barcelona Day 3 – Mercedes faster than it looked

Posted on | February 28, 2010 | by James AllengravatarcloseAuthor: James Allen Name: James Allen
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The penultimate day of testing at Barcelona was affected by rain, which fell during the morning and again in the early afternoon, forcing some teams to change their plans for the day and focus on what they most needed to achieve in the limited running time. The track temperature was ten degrees colder than the day before, which also affects the way the tyres work.

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For several drivers, like Nico Rosberg and Jenson Button, it was the last day of testing.

Getting the tyres warmed up for a single lap is something Button needs to get absolutely right if he is to challenge Lewis Hamilton and others this season. He did a couple of short runs at the end of the day, which he said were on low fuel, but they were a second slower than the Mercedes, so the fuel loads cannot have been comparable. So we have yet to see the outright pace of the McLaren.

Rosberg set the fastest time of the day a 1m 20.686, but if you look carefully you see that this not a representative time either, the Mercedes was actually faster than that. On his hot lap, the second lap on a three lap run, Rosberg set his fastest time in only the second sector, the lap before was 2/10ths quicker in Sector 1 and on a later lap he was two tenths quicker in Sector 3, so in fact the Mercedes’ ideal fastest lap yesterday was a 1m 20.2, which is pretty quick.

This caused Michael Schumacher to revise his rather gloomy prediction about the first race and say that in fact the car was in better shape to challenge than he had thought. Rosberg has already said that the team has another significant upgrade package for Bahrain, more significant than the update they brought to Barcelona. Schumacher will drive today and all eyes will be on his outright fast lap, as they will with Hamilton. Will the front running teams show their hand today and go for maximum performance or will they carry an extra 10kg of fuel to mask true speed?

Button seemed happy with the new parts he had tested on the McLaren, including new floor and top body, but as always, was left wanting more time. “Out of the box, with a new package, to be as consistent as we are and the pace we have, I am happy,” he said. “I don’t think we are at our maximum yet, but we will do our best tomorrow (with Hamilton driving) to get the maximum out of the car. I think it is just more time with this car – with this update on the car.”

For Toro Rosso, Buemi did a race simulation and set the second fastest time of the day on the fourth lap of a six lap run in the morning. It is hard to judge the long run pace because of the changing track conditions, but Buemi found it a useful exercise, “It was particularly interesting to see how the tyre behaviour changed depending on the fuel load. In the races, it will be important to drive smoothly, as on full tanks it is very easy to damage the tyres if you slide too much,” he said.

Meanwhile Ferrari worked mainly on long runs yesterday. Massa did a race simulation and the first stint was a marathon 53 laps! The lap times were very consistent, in the 1m 26s mainly. When he pitted he was immediately four seconds a lap faster than before, lapping in the low 1m 22s, showing what a new set of tyres is worth. Interestingly the Ferrari’s lap times didn’t really come down much in that long first stint as the fuel burned off.

Today, when it is expected to be dry, it will be interesting to see whether Massa does a really hot lap, possibly in the high 1m 19s or whether Ferrari keep their powder dry for Bahrain.

Red Bull only managed 51 laps on Saturday, with a “planned rebuild” taking much of the morning. It wasn’t until 3pm that Vettel went out to do some meaningful lap times. Today, unusually, the team is sharing the driving duties between Vettel and Mark Webber, to give both a final read on the car before Bahrain. This must mean that there are some significant upgrades which they want both drivers to evaluate.

While the established teams are working on performance, new teams Lotus and Virgin are both still chasing reliability. Lotus managed 102 laps yesterday with Jarno Trulli, bringing the total for the team this week to 248 laps, which is 1,153 kilometres. Virgin lost time with gearbox issues, a control system problem and then a fuel seal problem. The have only managed 114 laps over three days, well under half Lotus’ mileage. Lotus’ long run pace in the afternoon was in the 1m 30s range.

Headline Lap Times – Barcelona Day 3
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:20.686 128
2. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 1:21.413 106
3. Jenson Button McLaren Mercedes 1:21.450 105
4. Rubens Barrichello Williams 1:21.975 101
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:22.344 115
6. Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:22.523 68
7. Adrian Sutil Force India 1:22.606 61
8. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:23.123 51
9. Jarno Trulli Lotus 1:25.059 102
10. Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber 1:26.216 105
11. Timo Glock Virgin Racing 1:26.305 31
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Unofficial Sunday times from Barcelona:
1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:20.472, 134 Laps
2. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:20.496, 61 Laps
3. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:20.539, 114 Laps
4. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:20.611, 100 Laps
5. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:20.667, 76 Laps
6. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:20.745, 123 Laps
7. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:20.870, 84 Laps
8. Kamui Kobayashi, BMW Sauber, 1:20.911, 67 Laps
9. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 1:22.135, 88 Laps
10. Robert Kubica, Renault, 1:23.175, 107 Laps
11. Heikki Kovalainen, Lotus, 1:25.251, 65 Laps
12. Lucas di Grassi, Virgin, 1:26.160, 49 Laps
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