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Fisi on pole??

"Pole position?" said Giancarlo Fisichella, clearly double-checking that he had heard his engineer correctly over the Force India pit-to-car radio system.
The Roman veteran, at the head of a confusingly shuffled grid order, stunned the formula one world as he took his Mercedes-powered car to the fastest time in qualifying at Spa-Francorchamps.

He might be aided by a slightly low fuel load, but the veteran driver has been genuinely quick in Belgium and was never slower than fourth throughout Saturday's decisive qualifying hour.

Almost as oddly, Toyota's Jarno Trulli joins his countryman on the front row of the grid, ahead of yet another unexpected quick man Nick Heidfeld, who had topped the morning practice session.

"It's a mystery," Trulli told reporters. "We haven't done anything on the car compared to the last few races and suddenly here we are competitive."

In terms of the title chase, the real winner of qualifying is Rubens Barrichello, as the other protagonists Sebastian Vettel (8th), Mark Webber (9th) and particularly Jenson Button (14th), all struggled.

"I didn't have any pace on the soft tires and every time I hit the brakes, the rear would move. I did not have any confidence in the rear end," a baffled championship leader Button told BBC radio.

"It's strange to be four or five tenths off Rubens -- our cars are different, but they are not that different. It is pretty disastrous for tomorrow really," the Briton added.

Luca Badoer almost certainly participated in an official F1 session for the last time, despite looking more competitive than a week ago at Valencia.

However, the Italian still qualified dead last, and ended the Q1 session beached in the gravel.

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Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:45.102 1:44.667 1:46.308
2. Trulli Toyota 1:45.140 1:44.503 1:46.395
3. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 1:45.566 1:44.709 1:46.500
4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:45.237 1:44.834 1:46.513
5. Kubica BMW-Sauber 1:45.655 1:44.557 1:46.586
6. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:45.579 1:44.953 1:46.633
7. Glock Toyota 1:45.450 1:44.877 1:46.677
8. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:45.372 1:44.592 1:46.761
9. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:45.350 1:44.924 1:46.788
10. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:45.486 1:45.047 1:47.362
11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:45.486 1:45.119 -
12. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:45.239 1:45.122 -
13. Alonso Renault 1:45.767 1:45.136 -
14. Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:45.707 1:45.251 -
15. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:45.761 1:45.259 -
16. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:45.705 - -
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:45.951 - -
18. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:46.032 - -
19. Grosjean Renault 1:46.307 - -
20. Badoer Ferrari 1:46.359 - -

Was the grid computer generated to give teams rumored to be leaving F1 some publicity for sponsorship sake? We'll soon find out on Sunday if they get blown off by the fast guys.

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Weights haven't been published yet.
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Both Fisichella and Barrichello are extremely light on fuel:

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
1. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 648.0
2. Trulli Toyota 656.5
3. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 655.0
4. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 644.5
5. Kubica BMW-Sauber 649.0
6. Raikkonen Ferrari 655.0
7. Glock Toyota 648.5
8. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 662.5
9. Webber Red Bull-Renault 658.0
10. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 670.0
11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 678.5*
12. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 693.5*
13. Alonso Renault 684.4*
14. Button Brawn-Mercedes 694.2*
15. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 697.0*
16. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 685.0*
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 704.5*
18. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 706.1*
19. Grosjean Renault 704.7*
20. Badoer Ferrari 691.5*
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^^^

So when you look at those starting weights, Trulli and Heidfeld both had a hell of a qualifying session.
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Indeed. It's going to be a great race. Vettel looks good, as does Nico.
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Race on to unravel bizarre grid order (GMM) After the shock of the chequered flag in qualifying, the race began to solve the mystery of the upside-down grid order for Sunday's Belgian grand prix.

Giancarlo Fisichella has always been a Spa specialist, but it is believed the keywords of his pole position, and the strange order of the cars beneath him, were 'tyres', 'weather', 'circuit' and 'downforce'.

All factors are inextricably linked, as in the cold temperatures those teams who usually struggle to get their tyres working find that the nature of the Belgian circuit means they are the ones setting the pace in an extremely closely-matched field.

"One reason why it is so mixed here is it is a completely different track, it is a mid-downforce level," said BMW's Nick Heidfeld, who qualified third behind Toyota's Jarno Trulli.

"We usually stick on the car any (downforce) you find but not here," the German added.

Q3 fuel loads are also playing a minor role, as predicted by Ross Brawn, boss of the championship leading team whose Jenson Button qualified an awful 14th while Rubens Barrichello is fourth.

"I think the first five or six cars are strong but comparatively light," he told the German broadcaster Sky.

"Behind them are a second group with moderately heavy cars and then another group including Jenson are quite heavy," Brawn added.

The precise qualifying weights will be published by the FIA on Sunday evening.

Fisichella admits his Force India is quite light on fuel. "I think we are a little bit aggressive," said the Roman, who is being linked with the struggling Ferrari substitute Luca Badoer for forthcoming races.

"We knew for the top three it was important to do that, but don't forget I was fourth quickest in Q2. We are not so slow," he added.

BMW boss Mario Theissen also confirmed after qualifying that aggressive fuel strategies are in play.
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Trulli favorite for Spa win (GMM) Shock pole sitter Giancarlo Fisichella was not driving the lightest car in Q3 at Spa-Francorchamps.

The fuel weights, mandatorily published by the FIA in the hours after qualifying, showed that the Force India driver is in fact carrying four kilograms more fuel for the start of the race than the fourth-placed Brawn driven by Rubens Barrichello.

Fisichella, 36, is however 8.5kg lighter than fellow front-row sitter Jarno Trulli, meaning it is the latter Italian veteran who must be declared the favorite for Belgian GP victory.

"It is looking pretty good for the race," agreed Trulli. "I'm very confident for tomorrow because being second in qualifying with a good fuel load, I think I'm going to have a good race."

Third placed Nick Heidfeld however is - like Trulli - also significantly fuelled, but neither have as much fuel on board as the two lower-placed Red Bulls.
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If Trulli's car really is "hooked up" and not set up more for qualifying glory, this could be his chance to finally get Toyota's first win. Since Spa is so close to Cologne, I bet a bunch of Toyota people will be there. A win help his campaign to stay with Toyota. I am not a big Trulli fan but it is an interesting scenario.
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It should be an interesting race.
In the past, Fisichella used to show flashes of brilliance
With Badoer to slow to fill Massa's cockpit, how about one of the Italian's finishing the season at Ferrari?
Driving for Ferrari has to be every Italian F-1 drivers dream.
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From the Force India viewpoint, it would be good to get Vitantonio Liuzzi in the car sooner and thus back up to speed faster, so it could be a benefit for both teams. If I were Marc Gene though, I would be pissed. He has been loyal and just won Le Mans so he has proven he still has race instincts in place.

Maybe Kubica needs to move to Renault already and Alonso goes ahead to move to Ferrari?
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