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Here we go again...FOTA walks out...

FOTA 'walks out' of FIA meeting (GMM) Formula one's brief peace was shattered on Wednesday, as the teams met with the governing body in Germany.

According to the FIA, the meeting ahead of the German grand prix at the Nurburgring was to seek the agreement of all 13 2010 teams to scrap the proposed budget cap rules and replace them with a "legally binding agreement ... to reduce costs" to early 90s levels within two years.

"The eight FOTA teams were invited to attend the meeting to discuss their further proposals for 2010. Unfortunately no discussion was possible because FOTA walked out of the meeting," the Paris federation said in a statement.

FOTA, representing every 2010 team except Williams, Force India and the three new entrants, gave a different account, revealing that the FIA's Charlie Whiting informed them that they "are not currently entered into the 2010 ... world championship and have no voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations thereof".

Representatives of the rebel group requested the meeting be postponed but "this was rejected". FOTA denies part of the Paris peace deal in late June was the requirement "for unanimous agreement on regulations change".

"To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC (World Motor Sport Council) and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of formula one in jeopardy," said FOTA.

The eight FOTA teams said they had "no option other than to terminate their participation" in the FIA meeting.
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FOTA says FIA jeopardising peace deal

FOTA says FIA jeopardising peace deal

Wednesday, 08 July 2009 00:00
FOTA says FIA jeopardising peace deal - F1 | ITV Sport

The Formula One Teams’ Association has accused the FIA of jeopardising the future of Formula 1 by tearing up key parts of the peace deal agreed just two weeks ago.

The accord reached in Paris on 24 June – in which Max Mosley agreed to stand down as FIA president at the end of his current term and dropped plans for a budget cap, while the manufacturers pledged to reduce costs and sign up to F1 until 2012 – was hailed by both sides as a decisive reconciliation that had seen off the threat of a breakaway series.

But the durability of that deal was thrown into fresh doubt on Wednesday after the FOTA teams walked out of a meeting with the FIA at the Nurburgring and expressed dismay at the governing body’s latest stance.

FOTA issued a statement saying the FIA had reneged on undertakings made last month by refusing to treat its members as confirmed entrants for next year’s championship and denying them any input into the 2010 rules – in effect making Wednesday’s meetings pointless.

“Representatives of all FOTA teams attended a meeting of the Sporting Working Group at the Nürburgring today,” said the statement.

“During the course of this meeting, the team managers were informed by Mr Charlie Whiting of the FIA that, contrary to previous agreements, the eight FOTA teams are not currently entered into the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship and have no voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations thereof.

“It will be remembered that all eight active FOTA members were included on the ‘accepted’ entry list as endorsed by the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) and communicated by FIA press statement on June 24.”

FOTA said the FIA refused to reschedule Wednesday’s meetings on the basis that no further progress could be made in signing off other aspects of the peace deal until the 2010 regulations were unanimously agreed.

The teams’ alliance insists that last month’s deal did not include any such requirement and that both parties agreed at that time to revert to the 2009 rules as the framework for next year.

“In light of these [FIA] claims, the FOTA representatives requested a postponement of today’s meetings,” FOTA said.

“This was rejected on the grounds that no new Concorde Agreement would be permitted before a unanimous approval of the 2010 regulations was achieved.

“However, it is clear to the FOTA teams that the basis of the 2010 technical and sporting regulations was already established in Paris.

“As endorsed by the WMSC and clearly stated in the FIA press statement of 24 June ‘the rules for 2010 onwards will be the 2009 regulations as well as further regulations agreed prior to 29 April 2009’.

“At no point in the Paris discussions was any requirement for unanimous agreement on regulation change expressed.”

FOTA warned that the FIA’s latest position risked reopening the rift between the two sides and threatening F1’s future all over again.

“To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of Formula 1 in jeopardy,” said the statement.

“As a result of these statements, the FOTA representatives at the subsequent Technical Working Group were not able to exercise their rights and therefore had no option other than to terminate their participation.

“The FOTA members undertook the Paris agreement and the subsequent discussions in good faith and with a desire to engage with all new and existing teams on the future of Formula 1.”

The fragile rapprochement between the FIA and FOTA had already come under strain when, just days after the Paris deal was announced, Mosley accused FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo of misrepresenting what was agreed and “dancing on my grave before I was buried”.

The 69-year-old was so angered by Montezemolo’s description of him as a “dictator” who had been stripped of all influence over F1 that he threatened to reconsider his pledge not to seek re-election – a threat he has not yet withdrawn.
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Friday: another important day in F1 crisis

Friday: another important day in F1 crisis
Pressure on for commercial agreement sign off
10/07/09 12:05

FOTA applying pressure on CVC and Ecclestone
Today is yet another deadline in F1's long-running political saga, with rumours the FOTA group set the date for either a final solution or the re-announcement of a breakaway series.

After ‘walking out’ of the FIA meeting on Wednesday, Formula One Teams' Association chiefs dashed back to London for emergency talks, reportedly to quickly re-establish plans for an alternate championship.

BMW's Mario Theissen denies Friday is the final deadline.

"We only said that want to have the Concorde Agreement signed by tomorrow (July 10)," the German told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport on Thursday.

It is suggested in the Nurburgring paddock that peace is indeed near, with FOTA and commercial rights holder CVC agreed over a new Concorde, and the FIA revealing that it is nearly ready to sign the document.

The puzzle's missing piece seems to be the head of Max Mosley, with yet another bone of contention - FOTA's concerns about Cosworth engines - now resolved.

The FIA has agreed to limit the British engine maker to 18,000rpm, like the other manufacturers.

Theissen paused for several seconds before answering ‘no comment’ to whether the removal of Mosley as FIA President would lead to immediate peace.

FOTA Vice-Chairman John Howett, meanwhile, answered to a similar question: "The commercial rights holder understands what's required to get our signatures on the Concorde Agreement."

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