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Speculation rife as Red Bull go for Alonso too

Despite having their driver line-up sorted for 2008, Red Bull are reported to be chasing Fernando Alonso signature.

With Fernando Alonsohaving sensationally severed ties with McLarenyesterday, his actions are already kick starting a scrum in the driver market as teams clamour for the double World Champion's signature.

Although there are precious few places on the grid – and even less that would be able to accommodate Alonso's likely aspirations and wage demands -, it seems some contracts could become null and void if the prospect of such a renowned talent became available.

That appears to be the thinking behind the rumours that now Red BullRacing have joined the race to secure Alonso's signature, despite the fact David Coulthard and Mark Webberhave been confirmed at the team for several months.

However, both the BBC and Reuters have hinted that the ambitious team could be set to change their plans in order to snare Alonso. Indeed, while Red Bull's time in Formula 1has shown flashes of genius, they have yet to make a big impression. Nonetheless, their ambition is huge, with plenty of funds aiding their cause, as well as the technical know-how of Adrian Newey and savvy management of Christian Horner, a combination that is expected to pay dividends in 2008.

Another factor that could appeal to Alonso is also the rumour, according to, that Red Bull could also secure the services of Ross Brawn, should he return from his sabbatical from Ferrari.

What this would mean for Coulthard or Webber remains to be seen, but it is suggested that Coulthard could make a return to McLaren to make way for Alonso if need be in something of a straight swap.

Alternatively, Flavio Briatore-managed Webber could switch to another team – potentially McLaren - in order to allow Alonso into Red Bull for a season, before the Spaniard possibly returned to Renaultin 2009.

For the moment, Alonso's future, more obviously, could be with Renault and Toyota, both manufacturer based teams and both with a spare seat.

Renaulthave signalled their desire to have their former star employee back in their team to turn their fortunes back around after a disappointing defence of their two titles. However, the French team could now have too many drivers to satisfy, with Nelson Piquet Jr. thought to be contracted to a drive somewhere in F1, while Heikki Kovalainen and Giancarlo Fisichella have not firmed up their plans next year either.

As for Toyota, they at least have the money to satisfy Alonso, but their form in six seasons of F1has been inconsistent to say the least. The team were expected to have confirmed Timo Glock in the by now though, suggesting that Toyota-powered Williams could be a potential berth for Alonso.

Whether or not they provide a car suitable of winning their first race since 2004 remains to be seen, but a potential partnership of him and Nico Rosberg would certainly be a tantalising one. Provided McLarendon't poach him first…

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Alonso and Brawn set to join Red Bull dream team

Red Bull are set to become a major player in Formula One if, as informed sources suggest, the British-based team are ready to sign Fernando Alonso and Ferrari's former technical director, Ross Brawn, for 2008. This follows hard on the heels of confirmation on Friday that McLaren and Alonso are to part company prematurely, the only surprise about their joint statement being that it has taken this long for both sides to state the obvious. Alonso has never been happy at McLaren thanks to being beaten on occasion by Lewis Hamilton and the Spaniard's future has risen to the top of the agenda now that the season has ended.

Red Bull may have been a late entrant in the rush to secure the services of the twice world champion but the addition of Brawn's name to the mix makes such a partnership seem tenable. Brawn, having masterminded five world titles with Michael Schumacher at Ferrari (never mind the previous two they secured while at Benetton), took a sabbatical in 2007 and maintained that, if he returned to F1, it would be with Ferrari and no one else.
Circumstances have changed since then. Ferrari, by proving their capability post-Brawn thanks to winning the drivers' championship with Kimi Raikkonen, have removed the cache the Englishman might have earned had he returned and been seen to turn the team around. More significant, perhaps, has been the spying scandal between Ferrari and McLaren, an unpleasant affair that will not have impressed Brawn, particularly as it involved Nigel Stepney, the Ferrari technical manager whom Brawn had rated highly. The challenge presented by lifting Red Bull to the level of Ferrari and McLaren could prove much more tempting, particularly if Alonso is the number one driver.

Hiring Alonso and Brawn would prove expensive for a team that already has Adrian Newey on board. None the less, placing Brawn alongside Newey will allow the former McLaren and Williams chief designer to focus on what he does best while Brawn applies his superb organisational and tactical skills by coordinating the running of the technical department and strategy during the races. If this is what is required to make Red Bull a leading contender after three seasons spent feeling their way in F1 then Dietrich Mateschitz, the millionaire behind the energy drinks company, will not hesitate to fund what should be the final piece in his expensive promotional jigsaw.

Ferrari will be in need of liquid sustenance if this comes to pass. Apart from hoping that Brawn would return to the fold, the Italian team had been pursuing Alonso, if not for 2008, then most certainly, the year after. Raikkonen will remain at Ferrari but, even though Felipe Massa has been re-signed until 2010, the Brazilian would have been cast aside had Alonso been available. It was a possibility if you listened to Luca di Montezemolo. In the midst of his increasingly tedious and self-righteous condemnation of McLaren and everything the British team stands for, the Ferrari president described Alonso as 'a real champion, in every sense, an extraordinary driver'.

If Alonso does turn up in Milton Keynes for a seat fitting for next year's Red Bull F1 car, then either David Coulthard or Mark Webber will be looking for employment elsewhere despite both drivers having a contract for 2008. It is difficult to see where either would go, particularly Coulthard, who is the oldest driver in the field. The 36-year-old Scot was not one of the three drivers named by Hamilton yesterday as being on the McLaren shortlist. They are Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil and Heikki Kovalainen. Webber, who is managed by Flavio Briatore, could move to Renault (which is run by Briatore) if Kovalainen leaves for McLaren but the staff at Renault might see Webber as a poor swap, particularly as the team had been hoping that Alonso might return to the team that gave him both championships.

Until Red Bull entered the bidding, Renault had been the favourite to take on Alonso since the Oxfordshire-based team had provided him with a happy and secure working environment. The management and engineering staff, who enjoyed working with Alonso from 2003 to 2006, would have been ready and willing to fulfil his need to be undisputed team leader if the return on their investment had been a rerun of his 15 victories with Renault. Alonso's familiarity with Renault's technical ability would have provided reassurance that this team could turn around its misfortune after problems with their wind tunnel and other smaller factors had contributed to a car that was inconsistent, slow and failed to win a race in 2007. Last night Renault boss, Flavio Briatore, hinted that negotiations with Alonso had already started. 'I have presented a project for the future to Fernando,' Briatore said, but dismissed the idea that any deal would only be for a year before the Spaniard joined Ferrari. 'I know how much he can still give Renault. But an agreement for one year would have no sense with an outlook projected for a period of time.'

Regardless of which car Alonso drives next year, the only certainty is that the contract will have, in block capitals, the requirement that he enjoys number one status, the single most important factor in the deterioration of his relationship with McLaren. A partnership that could have won this year's championship quickly degenerated as Alonso became aware that the biggest threat to winning a third successive title came from within his own team rather than from Ferrari or anywhere else. Hamilton may have a lot to answer for but at least he and his team can now look forward to a season devoid of the corrosive internal politics that contributed towards McLaren losing the drivers' championship in 2007.

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