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Spec Racing Comes to F1

Seems that Mad Max and Uncle Bernie are not content to just take the heritage of Formula1 away. Looks like they want to take its balls also.

The way the comments are quoted it makes it sound amazingly like the World Wrestling Federation with the Ringmaster and all his "players" there for the entertainment. Nice to know that if they can just work that last little nuance of effort out to insure maximum profits they can just quit calling it a sport and slide it in the entertainment section of the local papers and TV.

F1: Mosley Insists on More Cost-Cutting
Written by: RACER staff Paris, France – 9/25/2007

F1 is "living on subsidies from the car industry and hand-outs from friendly billionaires," Mosley claims.

FIA president Max Mosley has revealed his dissatisfaction with the effects of Formula 1’s latest cost-cutting measures – such as long-lasting engines – and sent out a call to the sport’s team principals to further decrease expenditures.

According to autosport.com, Mosley’s letter made his usual plea for money to no longer be spent in irrelevant technologies that add little to the racing spectacle.

"Formula 1's vast profits are currently being wasted on pointless exercises for the private entertainment of the teams' engineers," the letter said. "As a result, several independent teams are losing money when they should be making a profit, while car manufacturers are forced to spend excessively. This is the problem which needs to be addressed.

"If it did not waste money on pointless, hidden and duplicated technology, Formula 1 would be an immensely profitable business. Each department would be a valuable franchise. Instead it is living on subsidies from the car industry and hand-outs from friendly billionaires.

"The technical contest has become enormously expensive. However, most of its elements are concealed from the public. Because they are concealed, even secret, these elements add nothing to the entertainment. Therefore the money spent on them is wasted, all the more so because work on these elements is duplicated in each of the 12 departments (the teams).

"It makes absolutely no sense to spend large sums on items which do not add to the entertainment, indeed often detract from it. It makes even less sense for each of 12 departments to carry out the same unnecessary work. No rational person would run a business in which 12 departments duplicate each other's research work, still less if that work provides very little of the entertainment which underpins the business.

"Therefore all items on the cars which are not known, visible and understood by the public should be standardized and manufactured at minimal cost. The technical contest should be limited to items which are visible, understood and potentially useful - eg KERS [the Kinetic Energy Recovery System, similar to the hybrid drivetrains in production cars like the Toyota Prius – Ed.]

"This would produce a huge reduction in costs without affecting the entertainment. Indeed the cars would be more equal, giving closer racing and better entertainment."

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Isn't it interesting that he sees the 12 teams as "departments" of his business? I thought they were licencees competing with each other for technical supremacy.

Does Mosely think that the appeal of horse racing is all jockeys riding on a cloned horses?

Why not just make F1 a game of chance - that way all the licencees (sorry - "departments") have an equal chance of winning. Oh yeah - they must all clone their drivers too so that no team - oops "department" - has to spend excessively on talent.

Maybe Ron Dennis was right all along - there needs to be a break away series. I wonder if he could create that for less than $100m.



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This guy is a frigging tool and will end up being the ruin of F1.

We must save money developing 2 race V10's. So after millions and millions are spent developing 2 race V12's, V8's are mandated after one season. Millions and millions are wasted.

We must have tires that last the entire race. So after millions and millions are spent developing one race tires, the concept is scrapped after one season. Millions and millions wasted.

There are so many examples of this tool playing ping pong with the rules and wasting untold millions that it is almost comical.

For him to come out and say the performance items must be limited to what's visible and understandable by the public... Hello Max, what is more visible and understandable to the public than tires??? You just mandated spec tires too!!!

Yep, it's gonna be a series to rival Champ Car soon.

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I don't see what's in it for Toyota, Honda, Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, BMW etc in having exactly identical cars. Why would they want to do that? Isn't the marketing benefit more than just saying you can win? Toyota obviously think so.

Also - I am damn sure the teams wouldn't spend a cent on anything that either didn't please/benefit sponsors or make the car go faster. They have to get the biggest bang for their bucks as well.

C'mon Max if I wanted to watch spec racing I could pick numerous other categories. I WANT to watch teams which give their all to be the best. Even if the racing is sometimes one sided.



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