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coughlan admitted in his sworn affidavid that he let top senior mclaren personel know anout the documents. that was a legal document, so i doubt he was lying. and you can sure as hell bet ron dennis knew about the documents even if he wanted nothing to do with them, as there is nothing that happens in that team that he dosent know about. just like todt with ferrari.
Content of affidavit is not known to general public. Some papers claim to know the details, but I believe they are just trying to get attention.

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if indeed the papers are making things up, im sure they would have thought up something much jucier than what they said, but lets wait and see as i believe the case is being herd in front of the fia this comming tues. im sure the full details will come out after that date
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Alonso free to leave McLaren?
Tue 24 Jul, 08:48 AM


According to sources in Spain, Fernando Alonso would be free to leave McLaren should the Woking team be found guilty in the ongoing espionage scandal currently engulfing Formula One.

Although opinion is split regarding the outcome of this week's hearing into the matter - with suggestions that McLaren could be hit hard, financially and/or points-wise, or exonerated completely - as.com has revealed that there could be even bigger 'penalty' for Ron Dennis' outfit should any blame be laid at its door.

Sanctions, should the team be found culpable of benefiting from Mike Coughlan's decision accept a 700-page dossier of information from a Ferrari insider,could range from a heavy fine, via the loss of all constructors' championship points, to the stripping of all points in both the teams' and drivers' championships, leaving Alonso and current leader Lewis Hamilton with nothing to show for their five wins and consistent podium appearances this season. However, it is now being alleged that the two-time world champion could be free to leave McLaren should his image be damaged by the team's involvement in the scandal.

Although Dennis has repeatedly claimed that nothing contained in the Ferrari technical package has appeared on the MP4-22 -which returned to winning ways with Alonso at the Nurburgring on Sunday - paddock rumour claims that the FIA has enough proof that the information has been used to throw the book at the Woking operation.

Central to these claims is now what may have been used on the car, but the fact that McLaren successfully launched a protest against the flexible floor introduced by Ferrari at the start of the season - something cynics say would not have been possible without back-up information detailing the part - based on email conversations between Coughlan and Ferrari's Nigel Stepney.
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Central to these claims is now what may have been used on the car, but the fact that McLaren successfully launched a protest against the flexible floor introduced by Ferrari at the start of the season - something cynics say would not have been possible without back-up information detailing the part - based on email conversations between Coughlan and Ferrari's Nigel Stepney.
Like Ferrari haven't done anything like this:


This rule came about because Ferrari discovered that Illmor were using a beryllium-aluminium alloy in the Mercedes engine, for either pistons or liners, and did not want to have to follow suit.


F1 - Grandprix.com > Features > Technical > Formula1 Technical Regulations for 2000

How did Ferrari knew what alloy Mercedes used in the engine ?

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Perhaps they were smart enough, not to get cought with documents?

Beside the moral / legal issues here, I still can't believe the stupidity of engineers to give hundreds of Ferrari identified pages to a copy business, whose employee then contacted Maranello.
Too cheap and stupid to buy a laser printer / copier / scanner?

O.K. Kirill, I added scanner.
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Perhaps they were smart enough, not to get cought with documents?

Beside the moral / legal issues here, I still can't believe the stupidity of engineers to give hundreds of Ferrari identified pages to a copy business, whose employee then contacted Maranello.
Too cheap and stupid to buy a laser printer / copier?
Copy center was suppose to scan them - can be labor intense

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McLaren await their fate in Paris
McLaren will appear at an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Thursday morning to answer charges relating to the alleged possession of confidential technical data belonging to rivals Ferrari.

The British team, currently atop both the drivers’ and constructors’ standings, are accused of breaching Article 151c of the International Sporting Code. If found guilty they could have points docked or even be disqualified from the championship.

Article 151c relates to “any fraudulent conduct, or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition, or to the interests of motor sport generally”. The charges stem from claims that McLaren’s chief designer Mike Coughlan, currently suspended by the team, held almost 800 pages of Ferrari documentation - enough to design, engineer, build, check, test, develop and/or run a 2007 Ferrari Formula One car.

McLaren have maintained throughout the affair that prior to Coughlan’s suspension no other member of the team was aware of the material, and have insisted that no Ferrari information has at any stage been used in the development of their 2007 car.

“McLaren looks forward to having the opportunity to present the complete and accurate picture of events in the appropriate forum,” said the team, after admitting their disappointment at being called before the FIA.

If the Council does accept McLaren’s defence it will then be faced with the unenviable task of deciding whether the team should be held accountable for the actions of one individual. Ferrari will be present to witness the outcome, though it is not clear whether they will be presenting evidence to the hearing.

Whatever the result, the affair is likely to rumble on for some time to come. Coughlan has submitted an affidavit detailing his version of events, but, along with his wife, remains the subject of a London High Court action by Ferrari over the materials allegedly found in his possession.

And then there is the question of sacked Ferrari engineer Nigel Stepney, a former colleague of Coughlan’s. Stepney was dismissed following allegations of theft and also remains the subject of legal proceedings by the Italian team. The Englishman has protested his innocence and denies he was the source of the now infamous 780-page dossier.

For most Formula One fans, of course, the biggest question mark is over the 2008 championship. McLaren’s drivers, Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, are separated by just two points at the top of the standings, with Ferrari counterparts Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen still very much in the running, both within 18 points of the lead.

In fact, with the current pace of the McLaren and the Ferrari so evenly-matched, it looks set to become one of the most keenly-contested title fights in years - and whatever decision the Council comes to could have a huge impact on its outcome
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Ferrari hire Stevens to probe spy leak
Eurosport - Wed, 25 Jul 17:02:00 2007
Ferrari have hired Lord Stevens to head an investigation into the alleged leaking of secret technical information by their former Technical Manager Nigel Stepney.

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Stevens, a former commissioner of London's Metropolitan Police, heads the forensic intelligence group Quest and is best known for heading up public enquiries into English football's bung scandal and into the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.

Ferrari boss Jean Todt, at the same time, has turned down an offer from Stepney, who claims he is being framed, for a face-to-face meeting to clear the air.

Stepney was sacked by the team earlier this month and is the subject of criminal proceedings in Italy after being accused of leaking a 780-page technical document to McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan, who is currently suspended from duty.

McLaren will appear at an FIA World Motorsport Council hearing in Paris on Thursday of this week to answer charges that they have used information contained in the documents on their 2007 cars.

Team principal Ron Dennis strenuously denies that the information made it out of Coughlan's hands and is confident that McLaren will be cleared of all charges.


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