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stategy had nothing to do with it, look at the fastest laps of the race ferrari is a full second ahead compared to mclaren. if mclaren dont pull something out of their ass soon, the championship will be over before you know it...

Sorry Pyro - but I don't agree. I've followed F1 for a long time and know much better (from my own previous experience!) than to judge a season on the first race. McLaren actually lead the constructors championship right now so lets not get too hasty in writing them off.

Raiky made his lead in the first 10 laps and then maintained it after that. The Mclaren stayed out for a about 4 more laps into the first stint before refuelling compared to Raikys Ferrari. So they had more weight in the car at the start of the race - and therefore in qualifying. I also think it was clear that Hamilton, although doing a superb job, probably did hold up Alonso in the first two stints. Alonso's poor start meant that he had to yield to Hamilton. The way Alonso pulled away from Hamilton after his second pit-stop shows that, in experienced hands, the McLaren will be much closer - as it was in qualifying.


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Race analysis - Ferrari out in front

Race analysis - Ferrari out in front

Italian pace proves rivals have plenty to do before Sepang

19 March 2007

Ferrari’s 193rd victory came courtesy of its debutant Finn Kimi Raikkonen, and he made it look oh so easy. As he started from the front, team mate Felipe Massa was at the back. The Brazilian had an electronic problem in his gearbox’s management, and then Ferrari elected to change his engine and thus he moved further backwards.

While Kimi opted for the medium-medium-soft tyre choices, Massa was on a single-stop strategy and thus started on the softs as he was likely to get held up in traffic early on. This was indeed the case as he battled his way past the Red Bulls and Hondas, and after his stop on lap 29, on went the mediums. If all Raikkonen had to worry about was the lack of a radio and the odd lapse of concentration, he really didn’t have much to worry about at all.

McLaren left Melbourne leading the world championship, with 14 points to Ferrari’s 13, but however much Ron Dennis might have bleated about the possible effect of BMW’s strategy for fast-starting Nick Heidfeld the writing on the wall indicated that the Ferrari was a second a lap faster in race trim.

Raikkonen reeled off a string of fastest laps early on, his best being 1m 25.235s compared to Fernando Alonso’s 1m 26.314s and Lewis Hamilton’s 1m 26.351s. Even had the silver arrows had a clear run at the first corner, there was no way they would have challenged the red car for victory this day. On the positive side, the MP4-22s were reliable and quick enough to leave everyone else behind.

BMW Sauber should have garnered nine points for their afternoon’s efforts, but the gearbox failure that stopped Robert Kubica on the 36th lap accounted for four of them. Nevertheless, five points for Nick Heidfeld’s fourth place got the team’s campaign off to a strong start even if Dennis accused them of ‘showboating’ with Heidfeld’s low-fuel strategy. It paid off insofar as it got him well clear of all McLaren’s pursuers once things had settled down, and enabled him to take the risk of using his soft Bridgestones from the start, whereas most opted for medium-medium-soft in their three stints.

The fact that Heidfeld finished was a great relief following the team’s gearbox problems from testing, but the gremlins struck Kubica and locked his transmission in fifth. In contrast to Heidfeld, Kubica had intended to use his soft tyres for a short final stint.

Fifth and 10th places for Renault came as a blow after their previous results in Melbourne, and the fastest laps indicated that on sheer pace they have been overtaken not just by Ferrari and McLaren, but also by BMW Sauber and Williams.

Like everyone bar Felipe Massa, Heidfeld, Alex Wurz in the Williams, Honda’s Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, Giancarlo Fisichella and Heikki Kovalainen in the two Renaults ran medium-medium-soft tyres. Fisichella did well to resist the intense pressure from Massa in the closing stages, but Kovalainen admitted freely that there was little to remember and much to forget about a debut in which he made too many mistakes. There is plenty of work to do in this camp.

Nico Rosberg’s performance in the Williams FW29 was a massive fillip for the team. He made some good moves, made the most of his chance to pass Ralf Schumacher and set the fifth-fastest lap to endorse the view that the new car is a lot quicker than last year’s. It’s also much more reliable. Team mate Alex Wurz was unable to emulate him as he spent most of his race stuck in traffic, and later became the launch pad when Red Bull’s David Coulthard misjudged his overtaking move in Turn Three and went right over the top of the FW29’s nose.

Toyota have always said that they don’t mind if they get beaten by a customer using their engine, and that’s exactly what happened as Rosberg led Schumacher home. After their strong qualifying performance many suspected that the Toyotas might have been running light, but they weren’t. They didn’t stop until the 24th and 25th laps. Unfortunately, they weren’t particularly quick, setting the 12th and 13th-fastest laps on the 1m 28s borderline. That put them behind Ferrari, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Williams and Red Bull.

Towards the end of the race there was also a potential reliability problem when Schumacher’s engine began to lose pneumatic pressure. Trulli also had a brake problem. Despite all that, Toyota had a lot more to crow about than Honda, who had an appalling weekend. They opted to start Button on medium tyres, then soft, then medium, and Barrichello on soft, medium and medium. It didn’t make much difference. Button struggled with a big fuel load in the early going, and his RA107 then developed huge understeer. He asked for a front-wing adjustment, but because of a radio problem nobody responded. When he pitted again they did put plenty of wing on but it made no difference. To compound that he got a drive-through penalty for pit lane speeding.

Barrichello, meanwhile, smacked a wall early on while he was being held up by Button, and though he later got past his team mate he could not do better than 11th place. He set the 14th-fastest lap, Button the 17th, so Honda clearly have a lot of aerodynamic work to do in the coming months.

The race was also a disappointment for the Super Aguri team, whose qualifying promise of 10th and 11th places translated into only 12th and 16th places for Takuma Sato and Anthony Davidson. The latter’s SA07 bogged down at the start, dropping him to the tail of the field and later leaving him vulnerable to attack by Adrian Sutil’s Spyker. He was launched into the air, and winded when the car landed. Despite suffering some back pain, and the car sustaining a reasonable amount of bodywork damage, he did achieve his aim of finishing a Formula One race. Sato, meanwhile, struggled with balance problems, but clung on to chase Barrichello home.

With Mark Webber seventh on the grid, Red Bull entertained hopes of a decent points haul but left with nothing. Webber’s race began to go wrong with a sticking fuel filler cap during his first pit stop, after which he lost pace. He had an off-course moment as a result, and then spun in the pit lane while coming in for his second stop. While he at least finished, however, team mate David Coulthard aviated over Wurz’s Williams after an ill-judged passing move in Turn Three on the 46th lap. Not a race for them to remember.

In the Toro Rosso camp Tonio Liuzzi lost a place to team mate Scott Speed after getting boxed in in the first corner, lost more time in early traffic, and had to wait until the final stages to get into his rhythm. At one stage he took nine seconds off Webber, and beat Button on his way to 14th. Speed had kept in front of the Italian until lap 29, despite worsening understeer. The cause of that identified itself that lap when two deflating front tyres dragged him into the gravel and out of the race.

Finally, Spyker had an up and down race. Adrian Sutil finished 17th on his debut but Christijan Albers, who had started from the pit lane in the spare car, retired on lap 10 when he went off the road into a gravel trap after missing his braking point. Sutil fell back after his clash with Davidson, and after a drive-through penalty for failing to observe blue flags, he blotted his copybook by crossing the white line at the exit of the pit lane, incurring a second penalty.

Schumacher or no Schumacher, Ferrari convincingly demonstrated that they remain the team to beat. “A new chapter in our history has got off to a very good start,” Jean Todt said. “The chassis-engine package proved to be competitive, the team worked with dedicated professionalism and the drivers were impeccable. This all means that we can look forward to the rest of the championship with prudent optimism, even if we have seen there is some very strong and well prepared opposition and some very talented young drivers. We have not yet reached the desired level of reliability and we have to do a lot of work on this as well as on improving our performance. I was very happy to get two telephone calls, the first from Michael (Schumacher) as I was going up to the podium, which I handed to Kimi and the other from Luca di Montezemolo (Ferrari president) who was jumping for joy as if this was our first win in a decade. And indeed that is the feeling for us all!”

Rivals have been warned.

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Sorry Pyro - but I don't agree. I've followed F1 for a long time and know much better (from my own previous experience!) than to judge a season on the first race. McLaren actually lead the constructors championship right now so lets not get too hasty in writing them off.

Raiky made his lead in the first 10 laps and then maintained it after that. The Mclaren stayed out for a about 4 more laps into the first stint before refuelling compared to Raikys Ferrari. So they had more weight in the car at the start of the race - and therefore in qualifying. I also think it was clear that Hamilton, although doing a superb job, probably did hold up Alonso in the first two stints. Alonso's poor start meant that he had to yield to Hamilton. The way Alonso pulled away from Hamilton after his second pit-stop shows that, in experienced hands, the McLaren will be much closer - as it was in qualifying.


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i have also been following f1 for some time now, and your right, you cant judge the championship on the first race, but then again numbers dont lie, and when all the cars are the the same weight(ie fastest laps) ferrari dominates. as for hamilton holding up alonso, there were several parts of the race where alonso had a clear track and still could not come close to ferrari. also when the champion alonso admits that ferrari are out front and mclaren are not going to be able to challenge untill later in the season, you know something is wrong. mclaren have alot of work to do.

note: the only reason mclaren is out front in the points is because massa had a gearbox problem in quailifying, if it wasent for him starting last, it probably would have been a ferrari 1-2

""We will be trying to keep scoring points and finishing on the podium. "--alonso

notice he says nothing on winning...even he knows there screwed

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I guess I am not as pessimistic as you pyro. :-)

I am not saying the Ferrari is not quick - it is. But lets say, for example, that Ferrari have a similar problem with one of their cars at every second race then things get much more interesting.

McLaren had a good solid start. They were reliable and their two drivers are very well matched. Ferrari can't afford to have a *^&k up with one of their cars too often or their supposed romp away with the championship will not eventuate. And it was not just a gearbox failure for them either. There was an engine change also. Ferrari say the engine change was "precautionery". But maybe it says volumes about their confidence of reliability.

I look forward to race two when Kimi's car has to use the same engine and gearbox as this race. Then we'll have more of an idea of where things are really at.

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the ebgine change was precationary, all tems have been dooing this for years since these rules came into effect, including mclaren. the gearbox on the other hand could be a problem, so well see what happens, but you have to understand, the teams have 3 weeks till the next race, and im sure ferrari will have a solution for their problem, let see if mclaren have one for theirs...
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