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Nasty S class crash

Passenger, 33, Dies in Beverly Hills Crash After Road Rage Incident: Police | KTLA

Accident occur on small street in Beverly Hills.
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Ouch that looks nasty, he/she must have been really trucking to do that much damage.


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Doesn't say much for the new Mercedes build wow. I hit a Kudu in a Mercedes W202 C220 and it nearly took the roof off (as per the glass sun roof in the photo).

I can rememember the crash ads of Mercs in the 60s and 70s where people survived after being caught under a concrete mixer truck - not todays light weight rubbish
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Quite a bit of falsehoods, myths, and misconceptions here. Even for Mercedes, a manufacturer that started to make car safety a priority earlier than most others, it is true that modern cars (of a given class) offer much better passive crash protection than their predecessors built decades ago in virtually every respect. (In terms of active crash protection, the advances have been even greater.)

Modern steels with their extreme toughness that are used to build passenger cells today have come a long way from the materials used in the 60s-70s. Neither did complex, computer based crash simulations exist back then. Besides, despite the attempts to limit vehicle weight, today's Mercedes are typically not lighter, but heavier than those built decades ago. The average weight of the S-class from the 1960s-early 1970s (W108) was roughly 1.5 tons, that of the S-class from the 1970s-early 1980s (W116) about 1.7 tons, that of the S-class from the late 2000s (W221), the one involved in the crash shown here, almost 2 tons. One major reason that prevents manufacturers from building lighter cars is the need and determination to achieve ever higher levels of passenger safety.

There are always crash scenarios against which even the safest cars offer limited protection. The scenario of hitting a large mass not with the bumper, but only with the windscreen and the front of the roof is one such case. These accidents can involve hitting large animals (the legs are cut off but the heavy torso remains stationary--in Sweden this often occurs with moose, especially in spring time) or rear-ending a trailer without a protective guard bar (which are now installed for this very reason). This is an extremely difficult problem to solve, and the outcome is often very severe no matter what car is driven: the windscreen has no crumple zone, neither does the roof. A rollover, in contrast, or a fall on the roof are completely different crash scenarios.

Regarding the accident that started the threat: it is well-nigh impossible to pass any competent judgment not knowing the specifics of what appears to have been a quite complex crash with potentially multiple collisions with cars as well as stationary objects. Crumple zones are one-use items: after energy from a first hit has been absorbed, there is little protection left against a second hit. Finally, the person who died was reportedly not buckled up. But again, without knowing fundamental data, let alone details of this incidents it would be foolish to even try drawing just about any conclusions or make any generalizations here.
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No seatbelt = No chance

When will they learn
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People who watch Fast and Furious think they can drive like that. Even some of the actors.

OK. Driver has accident with a taxi. Instead of doing the right thing, stop and throw some money at the cab driver or wait for the cobs he or she decided to run.

Wrong move. Then driving faster as experienced and hitting another car, killing one of his/her own passengers.

Oh please God throw Brains down here. Who needs Facts if he has a strong opinion?

Owning a car does not also mean you can handle it. Same with any tool. Like a welder or a lathe or a computer. Even with animals. Owning a horse does not give you the ability to ride one.

Somehow a lot of people forget this important fact. You need to learn those skills and train them regular. Or you loose them.


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The newer Merc's are junk,chinese parts,thin metal,more plastic,and aluminum blocks.I'll ram my w126 into any new Merc today,and see who walks away.

1999 s320. and 83 300sd quit driving,people make me nervous
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Well, another case when one should remember to not fly faster then one's guardian angel...Sad..
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Thats sad. probably the girls night out went a little to long.
Makes me think of all the times racing around town in the triple digits with friends under the influence... I cant believe we made it out of our 20s just recently. Never was much of a road rager though...
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