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While recently on a trip, I was going down a fast country road at around 30mph behind 2 tractors and some other articulated machine.

After some time the opportunity came to pass them.
I began to pass them initially without stress... as you can imagine lots of inpatient drivers behind.. followed me..close to my bumper...

2/3rd's in i hit a bump in the road...
The car then throws a wobbly, revs and drops into neutral.. I am trapped with absolutely no where to go... It took my quick thinking, hazards, blasting of horn.. arms out the window... fortunately I barge my way in between the tractors... the cars behind were also in mayhem, brakes, cars on grass..

Now.. I was fortunate - lucky on this occasion. Truck stops and works as normal after turning off... It has done this lots of times on the journey home.. sometimes moving manually gets a low gear but mostly nothing happens at all.. remains driveless...I dare not trust it to over take. I am about to visit the garage this afternoon.

Thing is i discover this is by design ! to prevent catastrophic failure.. MB think saving the car is more important than my children. Had my wife been driving.. I am not so sure of the outcome.

I will never buy another MB after this experience.. I have an SL500 which will be going.. i drive that on occasion with some fire and can see the day it also fails.. as I am told they all do eventually.

This is the craziest safety measure I have ever seen and should never of been in place or gotten past so many people. Cant believe once people are aware of it they actually buy another. How have MB gotten away with such a silent killer. I imagine many are already dead without the cause being identified.

Are the new MB exactly the same... my SL is an R270 2003

What do others think?
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Good thing this didn't happen at 35mph.

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While recently on a trip, I was going down a fast country road at around 30mph behind 2 tractors and some other articulated machine.

After some time the opportunity came to pass them.
I began to pass them initially without stress... as you can imagine lots of inpatient drivers behind.. followed me..close to my bumper...

2/3rd's in i hit a bump in the road...
The car then throws a wobbly, revs and drops into neutral.. I am trapped with absolutely no where to go... It took my quick thinking, hazards, blasting of horn.. arms out the window... fortunately I barge my way in between the tractors... the cars behind were also in mayhem, brakes, cars on grass..

Now.. I was fortunate - lucky on this occasion. Truck stops and works as normal after turning off... It has done this lots of times on the journey home.. sometimes moving manually gets a low gear but mostly nothing happens at all.. remains driveless...I dare not trust it to over take. I am about to visit the garage this afternoon.

Thing is i discover this is by design ! to prevent catastrophic failure.. MB think saving the car is more important than my children. Had my wife been driving.. I am not so sure of the outcome.

I will never buy another MB after this experience.. I have an SL500 which will be going.. i drive that on occasion with some fire and can see the day it also fails.. as I am told they all do eventually.

This is the craziest safety measure I have ever seen and should never of been in place or gotten past so many people. Cant believe once people are aware of it they actually buy another. How have MB gotten away with such a silent killer. I imagine many are already dead without the cause being identified.

Are the new MB exactly the same... my SL is an R270 2003

What do others think?
This is a serious problem but it is not a safety feature, the only safety feature is limp mode which locks the car into second gear and only allows 2000 rpm. You said the revs drop to neutral?? yes?

Limp mode is fitted to most German cars now and some Asian cars like Honda.

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"The car then throws a wobbly, revs and drops into neutral.."

You believe that MB designed such behavior into your car? Really?
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"The car then throws a wobbly, revs and drops into neutral.."

You believe that MB designed such behavior into your car? Really?
Actually yes they do, but not to intentionally cause an accident, exactly the opposite was intended.

When a serious problem is detected by the ECU or EGS it drops the car into second gear and revs drop below 2k to prevent damage to the engine or transmission.

Not very nice if you are overtaking on the wrong side of the road and this happens.

This feature is called "Limp Mode", when he turned the engine off and restarted it the fault code cleared from the computer and brought the car out of Limp Mode.

I have road tested many Benz to fault find and the car has gone into limp mode during the test, he must have this car checked before it does this to him again.

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It appears that the OP resolved his problem 6 months ago --> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w163...r-stumped.html

No word since then, and on this forum no news = good news.

It's hardly a deadly problem if you're in an ML when this happens. You can roll it over and still not die.
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