JBg3 - Please stop with your endless harassing make-believe comments. You're right about me not producing a single car company unbelted claim. I only produced the NHTSA's unbelted standard upon Simon E's request that applies to ALL car companies. 'Surprise, surprise'....REALLY?!! Grow-up.
Your contention is that passengers will live without seatbelts based on the airbag alone. I said show us a single claim or standard that backs that up. "that will live" part of my comment you conveniently evaded. So far, you have not demonstrated a single standard that shows passengers will or should live without a seatbelt, or requires airbags to save lives WITHOUT the primary restraint system.
This is old news, but you still haven't picked up on this.
Just to understand your logic.....if a majority of occupants are unbelted that makes it ok for one belted occupant to experience design issues? Physics by democracy I suppose?
I think if ive said anything a dozen times, its that the rear passenger destroyed your seat on the way forward. The fact that you can post the above shows just how disinterested you are in actual discussion, and how interested you are in ONLY telling people what you think happened without fact or logic. This is a public discussion board. As long as you persist in posting unsupported theories, ill be interested in pointing out just how unsupported they are.
Truth is if that rear seat passenger was belted behind me I'd be dead considering just how much uncoiling a seatbelt harness does during a collision while the vehicle is under 516ftlbs of torque. That rear seat passenger gave me a chance at survival. If he broke his shoulder against my seatback and not his skull against the dashboard I may agree with you. Unfortunately you have no regards for physics and facts.
if anyone is ignoring physics or facts to place their brand of history on what actually happened, its you.
your argument is that since the shoulder wasn't broken on the dead rear seat passenger, that 30 other unbelievable and preposterous claims by you are somehow correct. Thats up there with some of the most ridiculous claims ive ever heard.
If the rear seat passenger had been belted in, he would not have CLEARLY (as in shown in the photographs you have provided) hit the back of your seat and thrown you forward as well. The fact that his shoulder wasn't broken means he didn't break his shoulder. But then again we don't really know if he hit with his shoulder first, do we?
Fact is if he had shown the basic safety wisdom of belting in, the both of you would probably be alive now, with minimal injuries.
I have this vision of you in a cheerleader's outfit with a big Mercedes-Benz symbol waving pom-poms while singing how saintly MB is.
funny, but as ive said 10 times, the car corporation in question here is irrelevant. I could care less about MB. I own an ancient MB, which has about as much to do with amg, as your grip on reality has to do with basic physics.
Ive said before, I believe there is a definite case against Lincoln based on extending and increasing the mass of a vehicle without increasing the crash survivability. You don't want to discuss it though, apart from deciding how fast the guy was going and what he was doing minutes before the collision.
I didn't destroy my life. I survived my life against all odds. Spent 7-years facing one round of personal, business, legal and financial attacks after another all to be crowned by Mercedes-Benz complete denial of the acceleration-force upon a frontal collision, denial of the fact my seat back bent at the bottom outboard side (they actually claimed my weight should have bent it at the top outboard side which is also abnormal) and claim of credit for my life.
You have spent nearly a decade and untold amounts of money trying to convince people that something self evident did not in fact happen in the self evident way shown by photos and accident report. Id call that a waste of time, but then again, I haven't made this a piece of my personality in the way you have.
Concerning MB, actually their comments make perfect sense, and relate to the documents and evidence of the crash, while none of your theories have the same virtues.
MB doesn't have to defend itself though, the facts are self evident to anyone who looks at them. As this thread demonstrates, you have zero supporters of your theories.
You have yet to answer how both front seat occupants incurred rear/top head injuries on June 11, 2006. I'd love to hear your theory on that one.
Ive actually addressed that particular matter 30 different times. Ill put down your inability to read what ive written as related to your mental illness over this issue.
You have yet to answer or explain how it is you believe an unbelted driver and a belted passenger are subjected to the same physical forces in a crash environment, which is your contention in linking both parties. Someone with a basic grasp of reality can see that these two injuries are in fact, not linked. As an engineer you claim to be, the obvious dissimilarity should be blatant to you.
It's pretty simple now, if Mercedes is correct than their 40mph IIHS partial frontal impact test's data will have higher forces with the same force-slopes and slightly longer pulse than my 36mph IIHS partial frontal impact test's data. That comparison will be made and no other points can supersede real lab-tests. But if you wish to wave your pom-poms it's a free world. Just do it under your own thread already. You're contaminating my thread with nonsense in your effort to make fact-finding nearly impossible. Or better yet, just go buy an AMG and move on! I'm not stopping from that and I sure don't care about purchases people make in full awareness. Knock yourself out. Are you even considering purchasing an AMG? Do you currently own one? If not, why are you here? Like wasting our time? Keyboard warrior during retirement? You do realize you're telling me to 'wear your seatbelt' and acting as if I did not wear it? What is that? Got comprehension? You can waive your MB-pom-poms chanting that claim all you wish on your own thread. It doesn't even apply to me. WAKE UP & GO LIVE.
you are getting emotional and upset again, could be another factor of your mental state.
You are clearly unaware of what other people are actually saying, and are completely incapable of discussing this in a rational fashion. Your theory is amazingly weak, no one believes you, and no one really cares. These are all hard pills to swallow. For 8 years you've driven the only people who can possibly care about you (family) away in your quest to blame this disaster on anyone but the people who are at fault.
Yes, ive said many times, this accident and the results of it are because two grown men failed for reasons of their own to take the BASIC safety precaution of buckling into a seatbelt.
One of those grown men also completely failed to competently drive his vehicle, combining a recklessness at the wheel with the appalling stupidity of not buckling his seatbelt, and resulting in the deaths of 3 people. Thats the truth. Because you are blind to it does not make it any less apparent or true.