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jerk_chicken · 10-27-2009, 11:50 PM

Apparently you don't know what you're talking about. That's ok, because most people here don't anyhow.

...and it had close to 300hp. That's a decent chunk of power. The only people that seem to think that cars under 400hp don't get up to speed are people that can't use them for high speeds, like people in the US.

**eric242340** · 10-28-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ML_captain

this moron probably was drunk or on drug.

went up to 120mph in an ES? that dude wasn't in a Ferrari. The time it takes to get to 120mph, he had enough time to shift the gear into neutral and brake.

guess all that 19 yrs were wasted in donut shops.

You obviously have never driven one of these cars, so trust me they are more powerful than you think and to reach 120mph does not take long at all. If you read all the reports on this situation you would realize that it is indeed complicated to put the car in neutral in this predicament.

The man had three members of his family in the car and one only 13 years old so I am sure he was in panic mode, but again all the reports indicate that he did not have a chance.

imo · 10-28-2009, 06:00 AM

Rather ice cold response regarding driver...and those that have passed away.
It would seem that this is not the only incident.
The vehicle in question had over 250 HP and could easily make it over 100mph in seconds.
Fighting a full open throttle engine and cars momentum at that speed with the brakes
takes time and distance.
In addition the inability to shut down in a surprise, high panic situation when he probably was concentrating more on the road than looking for a key or while trying to find neutral
Really,it is a matter of seconds.

ML_captain · 10-28-2009, 08:05 PM

sure, smart, 300 hp. the dude had the time to chat on 911. regardless of 300 or 500 hp, the dude got the time to react.

I feel sorry for the passengers. That dude was seriously on drug or drunk. Toyota may be at fault. It's the dude's stupidity resulted in such tragedy.

imo · 10-29-2009, 05:07 AM

Toyota recalling 3.8M vehicles over floormats, its largest ever in U.S. — Autoblog

jerk_chicken · 10-29-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ML_captain

sure, smart, 300 hp. the dude had the time to chat on 911. regardless of 300 or 500 hp, the dude got the time to react.

I feel sorry for the passengers. That dude was seriously on drug or drunk. Toyota may be at fault. It's the dude's stupidity resulted in such tragedy.

You're clueless.

imo · 10-29-2009, 05:24 AM

here is link for story.
it would appear that the passenger was the one on the phone.
Despite CHP officer's vehicle safety training, he couldn't control runaway Lexus -- latimes.com

imo · 10-29-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ML_captain

sure, smart, 300 hp. the dude had the time to chat on 911. regardless of 300 or 500 hp, the dude got the time to react.

I feel sorry for the passengers. That dude was seriously on drug or drunk. Toyota may be at fault. It's the dude's stupidity resulted in such tragedy.

contribution to subject matter has been worthless

**eric242340** · 10-29-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by imo

contribution to subject matter has been worthless

Well said, just a lot of negative talk.

rabbit188 · 11-01-2009, 12:15 PM

I'm thinking that a solution might be to design the cars so that the engine would slow if the brakes were applied under high rpm conditions. There are few situations where the throttle and brakes are applied at the same time. Some specialized driving, such as road ralleys, etc. In other words, if the throttle is stuck, for whatever reason, and the brakes are applied hard, at the same time, the computer could be programmed to slow the engine. This idea would have to be refined, to deal with letting up on the brakes after the car has slowed, etc. But, I think it's doable for future models.