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**eric242340** · 10-25-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by imo

for what it is worth.
my clk 350 with key less go WILL shift into neutral while accelerator is on the floor and vehicle is under full accelaration at highway speeds.
The car WILL go to redline when placed into neutral.
so it would seem that response would be same as a keyed car.
The car will go to redline but the individual would retain control of steering, brakes and have a chance to pull over...the engine would probably sustain engine damage if maintained at red line for a prolonged period but that would be better than an accident.
so the transmission would respond to shift to neutral under load.

Thank you, it is good to know

E55MKB · 10-26-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imo

for what it is worth.
my clk 350 with key less go WILL shift into neutral while accelerator is on the floor and vehicle is under full accelaration at highway speeds.
The car WILL go to redline when placed into neutral.
so it would seem that response would be same as a keyed car.
The car will go to redline but the individual would retain control of steering, brakes and have a chance to pull over...the engine would probably sustain engine damage if maintained at red line for a prolonged period but that would be better than an accident.
so the transmission would respond to shift to neutral under load.

A worthwhile info definitely. Thx

jerk_chicken · 10-26-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pringles21

This is very interesting. That makes me not like keyless ignitions even more.

Keyless coupled with fly by wire brakes...

Anyone have a link to the story the OP posted?

E55MKB · 10-26-2009, 04:32 AM

Here u go:

Toyota's runaway-car worries may not stop at floor mats -- latimes.com

**eric242340** · 10-26-2009, 04:34 AM

I looked at an w220 yesterday and with the engine running and the car in drive I tried to switch the engine off with the shift lever KG switch and it would not let me and simply said via the dash ( move the shift lever to the park position).

So it looks like the only answer would be to put it in neutral and to hell with the engine.

**eric242340** · 10-26-2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by E55MKB

Here u go:

Toyota's runaway-car worries may not stop at floor mats -- latimes.com

Holy shit that makes an incredible read. I feel for that family, and it looks like the guy really had no way of stopping the car.

jerk_chicken · 10-26-2009, 06:17 AM

"Flames shooting from underneath the car"

There was another case towards the bottom, which seems to remain unresolved, where the driver slammed into another car, killing the driver of it, and then coming to a stop.

Pringles21 · 10-26-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jerk_chicken

"Flames shooting from underneath the car"

There was another case towards the bottom, which seems to remain unresolved, where the driver slammed into another car, killing the driver of it, and then coming to a stop.

Interesting way to stop. Wow can't wait till more people realize that this is a problem. There should be a panic button somewhere. I like keys they can be a nifty little weapon we needed.

imo · 10-27-2009, 09:37 AM

keys would be the same thing..
general population is using cellphones, gps, text messaging while driving on top of changing radio stations, MP3's, multiple cd changers all while eating a taco etc.
basically unprepared, uninstructed for something that requires a quick reaction.
when a panic situation arises..
It could be throttle stuck, CRUISE CONTROL stuck or other,
a person may be unaware how to react
for now
i would think neutral would be first choice regardless if vehicle is keyed or keyless
then move to safety with power steering and brakes maintained, then when stopped
then shut motor off..
turning an engine off while in motion will cause loss of power steering and power brakes for those unfamiliar with old cars or trucks the lack of power steering or power brakes
might be rather hair raising.

ML_captain · 10-28-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by E55MKB

I just finished reading the LA Times article today (10/18/09) regarding the runaway Lexus ES350 that went into unintended acceleration (up to 120mph) while driven by an experienced driver (19 year CHP veteran) and crashed killing all four of its occupants.

.

this moron probably was drunk or on drug.

went up to 120mph in an ES? that dude wasn't in a Ferrari. The time it takes to get to 120mph, he had enough time to shift the gear into neutral and brake.

guess all that 19 yrs were wasted in donut shops.