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post #51 of 60 (permalink) Old 09-29-2009, 12:37 PM
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Oh! I know! Very frightening prospect.

It looks like a defective casting to me.

And the responsibility/liability lies with Brabus and not with Mercedes. You mentioned you will never buy another Mercedes but in my opinion, that blame is misplaced.

I am not saying that Mercedes is perfect. Case in point is this thread itself. They need to step up to the plate regarding the issues brought up in this thread. Someone needs to make them aware of it.

I would be furious with Brabus if that happened to a wheel they manufactured that was installed on one of my automobiles. In fact, I am! I will never buy a Brabus wheel because of your experience.

I am very relieved that you stopped when you did and averted a catastrophic failure that would have most certainly resulted in very bad injury if not death.
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Dang! Wow glad no one got hurt. I thought brabus was good at everything they did but i guess not. You should complain.
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In my opinion, It is absolutely vital that owners of these cars immediately have their lower control arms checked by a competent mechanic.
Why yes, these cars all come with a maintenance schedule, and the liklihood of these problems is a LOT less if that schedule is followed, i.e. by taking car to dealer where there are trained and competent mechanics who will indeed follow the specific schedule of inspections.

Things like "pay me now or pay me later" and "you get what you pay for" are SO applicable to this thread.

Examples of posters who are too smart to pay for manufacturer-specified maintenance and inspections appear to include the word "rubbish."

I can relate that living in the "desert southwest" makes rust a little unlikely and I know that and I'd concurrently think those living in the "rust belt" would know better.

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Why yes, these cars all come with a maintenance schedule, and the liklihood of these problems is a LOT less if that schedule is followed, i.e. by taking car to dealer where there are trained and competent mechanics who will indeed follow the specific schedule of inspections.

Things like "pay me now or pay me later" and "you get what you pay for" are SO applicable to this thread.

Examples of posters who are too smart to pay for manufacturer-specified maintenance and inspections appear to include the word "rubbish."

I can relate that living in the "desert southwest" makes rust a little unlikely and I know that and I'd concurrently think those living in the "rust belt" would know better.
I live in the "rust belt" and have my MB inspected by "trained" and "competent" mechanics at a highly rated Mercedes Benz dealer. Even so, they failed to discover the problem with my left front, spring perch upper bracket. Just a couple of months after the dealer did a thorough under car inspection, the spring perch peeled away from the inner wheel well. Research shows that this is a well known design flaw and the failure of the perch mount cannot be prevented by visual inspections. The only way that a problem with the mount can be found, is to remove the factory undercoating that covers it (and the problem). The dealer refused to remove the coating to check for a problem. MB USA paid for my repair because I had taken it to the dealer. But even they said that they would not pay the dealer to remove the coating on the other side, to check it. However, if that spring perch fails, they said they will pay to fix it. I just hope that my wife or myself doesn't run into a tree when the right side perch fails! Spring mounts and control arms are permanent parts of a vehicle and should never fail. Control arms should not be hollow. They should be a soild casting. I have seen W116's from New England that had so much rust that the fenders (wings) were flapping in the wind. Holes in the floors, etc. Still, the suspension parts were solid and the cars drove and had a wonderful ride! The basic parts (not wear parts, like ball joints) should simply never fail.
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Hi Mark, I absolutely understand where your comming from. Its just in my head that a brand that is so well established would not produce such dangerously flawed parts. Honestly, if I had not stopped as quickly as I did, I am 100% certain that me and my family plus other drivers and even pedestrians could have been seriously hurt. Can you imagine being hit by a wheel comming at you approx 60mph, theres no chance you would survive such circumstances. I still have the wheel in my possesion. I showed it to some wheel shops who repair really really badly damaged wheels, and they were ALL shocked as to see this wheel. One of the guys whos been in the wheel business for 30years said he had seen nothing like it, ever. The rim is absolutely intact, no buckling, damage, kerbing etc, yet the centre has completely cracked away from the main lugs holding the wheel to the car. Imagine losing a wheel at 70mph.
Wow...bad stuff. Glad to read you caught the issue and avoided an accident.

As a curiosity, Not that we would like to be tested in that situation...I searched youtube for some clips on cars with wheels falling off...just to see if it does end up as bad as we all believe it to be...but, as you see here, it's does not have to end in a fatal accident. It looks like you can still steer your car safely to a shoulder if it did fall off at speeds...

Note that the car below looses the right front wheel...I think that is probably worst then loosing a rear wheel...since it affects your ability to steer the car...


BTW: I hear alloy wheels are bad for hairline cracks that can turn out to be like these pictured here...that is why it is a good idea to do tests for cracks in our alloy wheels when we hit something hard...even if it looks fine...you should aways have it tested. But these fractures look like stress fractures...not a good thing...

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Exclamation horrible control arms

Hello Isk7,

You did a service to everyone with the reports of the 202 body control arm failure. I read about this and was worried about my 95 C220, but didn't change them. Well, a couple days ago I was on vacation, and just as we parked the car, Bang. This was right after replacing broken front springs.

This is a very dangerous problem, and I think reflects poor engineering. Like your 240D my 72 280SE has solid, heavy control arms. A control arm should be the last thing to rust out, not the first. I admit my C220 has rust, and I live near the ocean in Canada, but this failure was shocking.
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This is the scariest Benzworld threat i have ever been reading ,this should be a sticky in all Mercedes sections here on the forum ,markt big in red as well, as many of us have a 2nd (3rd & so on ) Mercedes car ,to drive to work or werever ,while the expensive one sits in the garage ,that's why the 2nd MB etc.
Unbelivable this defect ,i cant belive Mercedes did this ,i nearly bought my daughter a little C180 for her 1st car the other day (lucky I didnt like it ),cancel that now .
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Just to add to this old thread....
I had a 1995 C220 that I owned for 7 years and I loved having it. The front left wheel fell off when parking last February due to the lower control arm rusting through just as in the original post. I replaced it myself and promptly sold the car and informed the new owner of the design flaw.
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This is terrifying.. and making me not want to go near a W202....
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