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Old 01-21-2008, 05:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Sounds like the usual business deal gone bad. Nothing unusual.
He said, she said but bottom line, someone has to pay.
Think about it for a minute. If your "parents friends" business "partners"
are about to bolt to the South Pole and leave them in arrears,
are your "parents friends" not going to sue and prevent the flight ?
"He said, she said..."

Why the bitterness against the entire country ?

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my parents friends have already been the victims of a mini chinese take over. she owned a factory. the middle man said that the goods 'did not sell' and that SHE was responsible for HIS losses. he then held her captive (unable to leave the country) until she was able to pay for 'HIS' losses. she had to 'sell' all the property she acquired within china so that she could pay off her 'debt'. she is now back safely in north america and will NEVER do business in china again. you dont have to believe me on this one...i know that it truly happened. these are the stories that never make it to he news.

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Old 01-21-2008, 05:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Its the BUYERS that got no ethics.
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That's US (pun intended).

The manufacturer only makes a penny.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:24 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Well, he is obviously still alive. Imagine that crash and that impact on a Brilliance (Chinese premium car), which failed even the basic Euro crash and received the worst rating ever (Auto Bild / DEKRA). It yielded a sure fatality rate. Having said that, the S held up well. It is puzzling why they did not deploy but I assume that the computer determined it will be safer if they do not deploy. Airbags in the past have caused even worse damage when deployed in an accident.
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:09 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Well how about this option?
the active safety systems like brake assist, abs etc slowed the car sufficiently. And the passive safety systems like the seat belt pre-tensioners and active head rests activated reducing the risk of whiplash, so there was no need for the airbags to deploy because he more than likely wouldn't have come into contact with them at all. An airbag is not a measure of a crash.
Anyone car to translate that him.
HAH. I read it again and HE rear ended the truck. Why is he proud of causing an accident?

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Old 01-24-2008, 03:29 AM   #25 (permalink)
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If he buys a chinese built car, I hope he likes hospital food. He should also learn to drive a real car, maybe the car was too powerfull for him to control lol Buy a Geely and next time you will be under the truck in pieces
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:44 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I think his feelings were hurt when he wasn't treated like a king. I can see how nouveau-riche Chinese consumers might be under the impression that just because they bought a super-premium car (and into the Benz dream) that the are somehow MB's first priority. As seasoned (cynical) consumers in the US know that first priority is usually the bottom line. To MB he is just another customer.

That said, these cars really do give the extra measure of protection and luxury. I feel safe in my car, certainly safer than any other car I have driven. I just realize that MB really doesn't care about me that much as an individual, and I am OK with that.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:02 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Sounds like the usual business deal gone bad. Nothing unusual.
He said, she said but bottom line, someone has to pay.
Think about it for a minute. If your "parents friends" business "partners"
are about to bolt to the South Pole and leave them in arrears,
are your "parents friends" not going to sue and prevent the flight ?
"He said, she said..."

Why the bitterness against the entire country ?
this business deal is nothing unusual? wow, that isnt the business i am used to doing here in the united states.

'sue' in china? my parents friend is happy to be out of there alive...forget about suing...

china isnt america. i HIGHLY doubt it would even EVEN be remotely possible to try and sue someone without some sort of repercussions.

want another example of corruption? this one being more personal?

my dad in the early 90'ish was thinking about starting a soap factory. he found the village where the village master was more than happy to help my dad along every step of the way...getting the place built, raw materials and workers...he will supply the workers from his village. my dad inquired what the total estimated costs were to set up a pretty decent sized factory. ah, the village head master says, very good price of $20,000. wow thinks my dad...that is beyond a bargain and a half. then the village head master says quietly 'and i would like my mercedes blue'. of course my dad does a double take...okay, he thought...still a decent price...but as he inquired along the way about getting things set up...it was all about the bribe and payoff down the line of authority. the end dollar value was still worth it and perhaps my dad could have made a pretty penny at it but to him...it 'just' wasnt worth it...and i still agree with him to this day.

please...you can say the 'he said, she said' all you want...this is personal first hand experience from people i have known all my life with great integrity.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think his feelings were hurt when he wasn't treated like a king. I can see how nouveau-riche Chinese consumers might be under the impression that just because they bought a super-premium car (and into the Benz dream) that the are somehow MB's first priority.
Humans are complex. I'm dealing with different people everyday, with different characters, needs, and expectations. In the perfect world, every customer should be treated like a king, the problem is, the definition of "treated like a king" for each individual is different. No matter how good you treat your customer, there will always be unhappy ones.
Btw, if he expect better treatment, maybe he should've decided to buy a Maybach instead of a Brilliance or Gelly.

In Asia, many people are unaware or don't really care about how technology works. They just know airbags are supposed to deploy in the event of crash.

On local forum once, this one guy was pissed because his airbag wasn't deployed. He was cruising through highway while the car in front of him did an emergency brake. He stopped in time, but the car behind him slammed his car so his car was hit the car in front of him and his airbag didn't go off. He was thinking of suing the car manufacturer for that. Some people are just unaware of how things work.

Sometimes movies are misleading too. If any of you watch the movie Die Hard 4, there was a scene where a parked BMW E60 5 series was hit hard using a trash can and both front airbags deployed. First, the car ignition was off, the SRS module is not even active. Secondly, there was no one on passenger side, so even if in real crash that side of airbag won't deploy. But then of course anything can happen in a movie right?
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Humans are complex. I'm dealing with different people everyday, with different characters, needs, and expectations. In the perfect world, every customer should be treated like a king, the problem is, the definition of "treated like a king" for each individual is different. No matter how good you treat your customer, there will always be unhappy ones.
Btw, if he expect better treatment, maybe he should've decided to buy a Maybach instead of a Brilliance or Gelly.

In Asia, many people are unaware or don't really care about how technology works. They just know airbags are supposed to deploy in the event of crash.

On local forum once, this one guy was pissed because his airbag wasn't deployed. He was cruising through highway while the car in front of him did an emergency brake. He stopped in time, but the car behind him slammed his car so his car was hit the car in front of him and his airbag didn't go off. He was thinking of suing the car manufacturer for that. Some people are just unaware of how things work.

Sometimes movies are misleading too. If any of you watch the movie Die Hard 4, there was a scene where a parked BMW E60 5 series was hit hard using a trash can and both front airbags deployed. First, the car ignition was off, the SRS module is not even active. Secondly, there was no one on passenger side, so even if in real crash that side of airbag won't deploy. But then of course anything can happen in a movie right?
You have a VERY valid point with the movies bit. I work with Benz and BMW in china (im english by the way) and many of the chinese owners dont understand the basic workings of their cars let alone the technical side. Given a person like that and maybe he or she watches a movie as you describe then how the hell are we to explain why something did not work when in their mindset it should have? But I must admit it keeps me in a job lol
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:57 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Humans are complex. I'm dealing with different people everyday, with different characters, needs, and expectations. In the perfect world, every customer should be treated like a king, the problem is, the definition of "treated like a king" for each individual is different. No matter how good you treat your customer, there will always be unhappy ones.
Btw, if he expect better treatment, maybe he should've decided to buy a Maybach instead of a Brilliance or Gelly.

In Asia, many people are unaware or don't really care about how technology works. They just know airbags are supposed to deploy in the event of crash.

On local forum once, this one guy was pissed because his airbag wasn't deployed. He was cruising through highway while the car in front of him did an emergency brake. He stopped in time, but the car behind him slammed his car so his car was hit the car in front of him and his airbag didn't go off. He was thinking of suing the car manufacturer for that. Some people are just unaware of how things work.

Sometimes movies are misleading too. If any of you watch the movie Die Hard 4, there was a scene where a parked BMW E60 5 series was hit hard using a trash can and both front airbags deployed. First, the car ignition was off, the SRS module is not even active. Secondly, there was no one on passenger side, so even if in real crash that side of airbag won't deploy. But then of course anything can happen in a movie right?
Actually the car is called Geely and not Gelly, but it did make me laugh as in - if a Benz hit a Geely head on, the Geely would become Gelly lol and it would be a bit like hitting a tank with a peanut lol lol lol
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