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1986-1989 560SL question

I really want an 86-89 560SL. I love SLs but this is my favorite because it combines the old looks with the newer safety.

I live in the US so the car has a driver airbag, ABS, and seat belt tensioners.

But my question is overall how safe would you say this car is? I know it's a sportscar and is farely small, but I was wondering how they held up. I know they don't have the new features like roll bars, but I want one badly, I just won't get one if they're not safe.

Obviously I doubt they're as safe as my 1987 300D, but what are some other views?

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Not much info on the R107, but try a few Google searches.
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I saw an r107 get t-boned on the driver's door by a red-light runner at about 55 mph. Afterward, the driver slid up and across the console, opened the passenger door, and got out of the car unassisted. Impressed the hell out of me...

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I think that the construction of the car is very solid (it weighs ~3700 pounds). I have a factory video clip of the "crumple zones" in a 107 and it's pretty impressive, considering that the car was designed in the late 60's/early 70's. The US bumpers are incredibly strong - I know, I had one straightened out a little bit and it took an enormous industrial press beyond what you would see in a body shop to move the aluminum(!) bumper 1/16" or so.

Interesting that you are one of the only people I've seen concerned about safety in a 107. I considered buying a 1968 Camaro like I had when I was a kid before buying the 560SL, but after doing a little research, I would never buy any pre-1970 car (except maybe an MB) as a daily driver. The accident described above would probably have resulted in a permanently crippled or dead person in a pre-1970 car, with no side beams in the doors.

There is also a video somewhere on the Internet of a 107 rolling over on the Autobahn - the hardtop didn't come off and the person was OK.

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Cool. Yeah so I feel better about the 86-89 SL560. In terms of looks they're probably my favorite, I just don't want to mess around with something that wans't too safe.

I probably should have known that an MB would be safe no matter what (well relatively speaking age wise)

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I would take any old (say 1960 or later) MB over a new Chevy for safety.
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I really want an 86-89 560SL. I love SLs but this is my favorite because it combines the old looks with the newer safety.

I live in the US so the car has a driver airbag, ABS, and seat belt tensioners.

But my question is overall how safe would you say this car is? I know it's a sportscar and is farely small, but I was wondering how they held up. I know they don't have the new features like roll bars, but I want one badly, I just won't get one if they're not safe.

Obviously I doubt they're as safe as my 1987 300D, but what are some other views?
The R107 was the strongest and safest roadster of it`s day with margins of safety built into it well beyond the requirements of the legislation of the day.

strife2 has already pointed out that this was and remains a heavy piece of kit and not for nothing was it nicknamed the "panzerwagen" by the engineers that built it. In addition to the crumple zones the windscreen was one of the first to use a bonded glass screen which added to the rigidity of the structure and to increase passenger protection in the event of a roll-over.

In addition the car was the first to have it`s fuel tank located above the rear axle and Mercedes` famous ribbed taillights designed to reduce grime and dirt build first saw the light of day on the R107.

You are considering the 560SL which was one of the final year models and these cars all enjoyed larger and more efficient brakes and came with ABS as standard together with seat-belt tensioners. I would be amazed if you could not also find a 560SL with an airbag fitted as well.

So in all I think you will find that the 560SL would be a pretty good choice on safety grounds and every bit as good if not superior to your 1987 300D.

One obvious caveat is that however well DB made these cars they are still minimally eighteen years old and they would need to have been properly maintained otherwise there is bound to be a deterioration in the car`s ability to provide protection. How good is a 20 year-old airbag? Has it been serviced...etc.

These are great cars and I am sure you will not be disappointed if you buy a nice one.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the help.

Obviously I'm looking for one that's in decent to good shape (excellent would be nice, but I don't have the cash) I'll search the car high and low for rust before a purchase. I know a gas station near my house that gets at least one or two of them in every summer for sale.

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The 107 is a strong, sturdy ride but doesn't defy the laws of physics. Two areas of concern are the fact that it is a low car and susceptible to the bad things that happen when a low ride comes into contact with a large, high truck.

The other thing is that without the hardtop on, it doesn't have the modern pop-up roll bar. If you flip with the top down, you don't have that protection.

I think overall it's worth it, though. I love mine, I'll tell you that!
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Hi
I've had 2 1988 560SL's I bought the first one in 1993 with 19k mi on it.I used it for a daily driver and was so impressed with it I started looking for a low mileage one when mine hit 140k that was in 1999. Here in Fla there are a lot of SL's hidden away in garages with low mileage. I found one with 21k but here's the problem with garage queens. Where I drove the first car to 140k with just routine maintenance(oil gas belts and muffler hangers) the "new car" developed all kind of seal leaks (trans. steering box water pump ect.) mostlikely from sitting. I paid $22500 for the first car drove it for 120k and sold it for $20,000 While the resale on all the Benz have dropped since then I don't think they will go much lower and you have the opportunity to buy a engineering masterpiece at a reasonable price. Ive seen local 86-88 SL's listed for $9000 to $12,500 with about 100k. You may find 450's cheaper but the gas mileage is 11-12 compared to 17-18 for the 560. I just bought a 1990 560SEC for my daughter as a daily driver paid $4500 with 108k and for some reason it gets about 1mpg better than the SLand seems to have a lot more power.But you can't put the top down.

Anyway how many 15+ year old Jap cars do you see on the road?

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