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What is it with 960 wagons and problems? My dad has one and it has had a ton of problems since day one and he refuses to get rid of it.
My Volvo mechanic in San Francisco said as a basic rule ALWAYS avoid ANY Volvo with a "6" in its name, 760,960, anything like that. They all had problems always, due to collaboration with the French (now THEY really know how to build a car) or other things.

I love the 240,740 and 940, the REAL Swedish RWD ones. I ALMOST got a new 960, (later called the S90) from what I know now I am glad I didn't.

Either the Mercedes or Volvo wagon will have SERIOUS safety in a really big accident, so for that reason alone they make a good choice for a good faqmily vehicle.
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That hurts my eyes

Seeing somethikng like that is as bad as letting tarantula eggs grow in my ear.

Shame on Vicki for destroying destroying that lovely wagon. And saying "sorry, sorry" silly posh bint, while she's doing it, just doesn't cut it. She should be beotch slapped and then made to drive a Lada estate wagon forevermore for doing that.

At 167k it had lots of miles ahead of it.

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My Volvo mechanic in San Francisco said as a basic rule ALWAYS avoid ANY Volvo with a "6" in its name, 760,960, anything like that. They all had problems always, due to collaboration with the French (now THEY really know how to build a car) or other things.
the Douvrin V6 engine was used up to 1990, in that year Volvo introduced their own inline 6 which always was regarded as a great engine. The old French V6 also made the DeLorean move along pretty slowly.....

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Late in 2004 I was on the market to get another volvo wagon, a 99 70 XC. Nice car, but the turbos were leaking and could smell the oil through the vents.

About the same time I observed a private owner selling his 98 ML 320 for the last two months. Perfect shape, like new, 110k...got it for 9k. Lot roomer than the volvo. Excellent ets/abs, Works!!!!!

I drive late 80's volvos for everyday beaters, but really appreciate the extra height and larger cabin.

Go for the 99 or 00, because of new model issues in the 98. I'm sure you can find one for $10k, probably higher miles. I have 168k on mine now and it still as smooth as when I purchased it.

Also, just recently insurance companies just issued a list the safest vehicles. Guess what, not one domestic car/suv made it and guess again MB and Volvo topped the list for SUV's. Drive proud and safe.
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I have had a 1989 volvo wagon, 1998 volvo s70, and a 1998 Mb E320. I sold the volvo wagon because it was falling apart cosmetically, but it held up really well. The 1998 volvo was sold because it felt like a brick. The steering wheel was hard to turn and the gas was even harder. I chose the mercedes because it road more smoothly overall.

Overall, they are both good cars, both are safe. But, I think you get more for your money with volvo. So if I had a limited budget, I would get a volvo.
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The original In line 6 used ion the 960 had known problems with voids in the casting of the block. This resulted in "porosity" between the cooling passages and the cylinders and also to the exterior of the block. Volvo never admitted liability but changed the casting process to a "stir cast" method with ultrasonic testing post clloing cycle which vastly improved the longevity of the engine.

But the I 6 is known for swallowing valves, watch those ""Italian tune ups", a hard run to spin the valves can and has resulted in a 4 to 5 K bill for a rebuilt engine.

V-6 wa a problem due to smaller oil galleys and the fact it was never designed for the Volvo but was installed as a stop gap while Volvo attempted to come up with a smaller/lighter version of the B-30 Inline 6.

In fact I was told that the PVR-6 (Puegot/Volvo/Renault) was originally designed as a V-8 by Puegot/Renault and then had 2 cylinders lopped off the meet then EPA regs in USA market. Result was a "fubar" at best.

But I have seen well maintained PVR 6's last quite a while, again define well maintained as "anal" and that is your answer.
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I have owned both Mercedes and Volvo. The 940 was a great car. I also had a 740. All 4's with a turbo. The Mercedes is by far the better of the 2 IMHO. The fit and finish of the mercedes is much better and the style is better IMO. Either car would be fine but I would get the Mercedes. Good Luck.

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I had a Daewoo espero and wanted for years to buy a S80 from volvo. The last minute of buying i changed my mind and though about having a SUV. XC 90 was the first choice, then i saw the XC 60 which i like more from the outside. The inside though from the XC60 looks a lil bit strange. Then i had a ride with the ML 500 W164 and i think its much more well designed in the inside then the Volvo. Safe, i think both cars are..... and as a bonus... well the ML catches always some looks
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you should try the mercedes.

volvo is good, but mercedes would give more pleasure.
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