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Old 06-04-2006, 02:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If side impact breaks your neck, why not design and make headrests that curve around the head. If you then cant hear the damn stereo, you can always put minispeakers in the back/side head supports. Surely more useful/valuable than computerising seats, etc..
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Update on the story:

A judge has ordered a Lakeland man charged with causing a multiple fatal accident in Brandon on April 21 to remain in jail without bond.

Kenneth Stewart appeared in a Tampa courtroom Thursday morning. He's accused of running a red light and crashing his vehicle on Lumsden Road and Parsons Avenue into a car filled with family members in town for a wedding. He's charged with four counts of vehicular homicide, four counts of DUI manslaughter and two counts of DUI with serious bodily injury.

The mother of the bride, Emily Manzano, was among the four people killed.

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My mother was in a Ford Focus when she was T-boned by a Durango that ran a red light. The Durango was going about 45 miles per hour and did relatively minor damage (even though is was ½ block away from a school at 7am and the posted limit is 30). Based on her accident, this guy must have been going well over 70 mph. Should we even start to rant about drinking and driving?
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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waht a tragedy-bless them
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Update on the story:

A judge has ordered a Lakeland man charged with causing a multiple fatal accident in Brandon on April 21 to remain in jail without bond.

Kenneth Stewart appeared in a Tampa courtroom Thursday morning. He's accused of running a red light and crashing his vehicle on Lumsden Road and Parsons Avenue into a car filled with family members in town for a wedding. He's charged with four counts of vehicular homicide, four counts of DUI manslaughter and two counts of DUI with serious bodily injury.

The mother of the bride, Emily Manzano, was among the four people killed.

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My mother was in a Ford Focus when she was T-boned by a Durango that ran a red light. The Durango was going about 45 miles per hour and did relatively minor damage (even though is was ½ block away from a school at 7am and the posted limit is 30). Based on her accident, this guy must have been going well over 70 mph. Should we even start to rant about drinking and driving?
Wow - sad story. Hope Mr. Stewart will be able to spend the rest of his miserable life behind bars. Too bad though we as tax payers will be supporting his sorry ass.
Main reason why the Dodge still looks relatively good is because it is basically a Dakota pick-up truck with a boot. Chassis bars and the underlying structure make it a very rigid vehicle, which also means the passengers will be hit hard in a collision, the car not as much.
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Old 08-02-2006, 04:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I found this message relating to a fatal crash interesting because it might have relevance to the accident described here earlier. I have seen side impact crashes with similar damage to the car before that were survivable and wondered if there were perhaps other reasons besides head trauma that could have caused the fatalities.

Because there is little crush space to be spared for a side impact Mercedes like other cars that limit side impact intrusion do so by building extremely rigid structures for protection after the limited crush/crumple zone is used up. Once the structure has crushed to its limit the remaining crash energy is translated into acceleration forces as the vehicle is pushed along by the vehicle that impacts it. The same acceleration forces that cause whiplash injuries are now acting on the occupants internal organs as their bodies are shoved sideways with great force.

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As a physician, I am very happy for your family.
It could have been much worse.

These days with people listening to loud music, eating, drinking (Yes I drink coffee in the car!), doing make-up and talking on cell phone, driving is no longer taken seriously, especially by teenagers...

I have seen all kinds of accidents with the most recent at the Iowa and Nebraska border. I looked after the lone survivor in this accident:
http://www.dailyiowan.com/media/sto....dailyiowan.com

A few college students returning back to U Iowa for schooling, at the Underwood Exit (10 miles east of IA-NE border), on an eastbound exit ramp stop sign, the driver inched the car forward, then out of nowhere a pickup truck came southbound (? 60-70 mph), T-boned the car, 2 students died instantly.
The driver survived but sustained massive injuries (air-lifted to our hospital).

He is a big kid (220 lbs) and broke a whole bunch of bones: the most amazing finding was the femur socket driven into the hip joint, missing the iliac artery by 5 mm!!!
It takes alot of force for that to happen! But also he lucked out because the femur head missed the major artery by a hair!

Their car flew 50 feet downstream.
The 2 students that died had the aorta sheared off (even if there is a hospital 10 feet away and a surgeon on standby, once the aorta is sheared off, only God can fix it...) and they died instantly....
A very sad scene.....

It appeared the other driver was on the cell phone......

Anyway, T-bone is bad because there is no "cushion" zone (like frontal crash with the engine compartment acting as a cushion; and rear-ending with the trunk acting as a cushion).
A side airbag can help but what saved your daughter is the fact that she was seated in the middle.

The statistics shows that the majority of accidents happen at intersection. Why?
- people try to beat a yellow light.
- people turn too early when driver from cross-traffic try to beat a red light...a classic T-bone.

At intersection:
I always look R and L before proceeding on green light, never know someone is in a hurry, or not looking, or on cell phone. I wait for cross traffic to come to a complete stop before proceeding.
I managed to avoid a few close calls!

Anyway, glad your family is OK. Car is always replaceable, not human lives.
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Old 08-05-2006, 01:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It also appears they cut the car apart with the jaws of life to get to the occupants. So it looks far worse than it probably did. Still, major ouch there! I wonder how my 84 300D would've faired?
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:17 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It also appears they cut the car apart with the jaws of life to get to the occupants. So it looks far worse than it probably did. Still, major ouch there! I wonder how my 84 300D would've faired?

I hope you'll never find out.

Looks like c-class was hit right at B-pillar. May be surviving occupants were at passenger side of the car and side airbags helped their necks.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Officer smelled alchol on the Dodge Durango driver. 34 years old.

See ya when you're 40 pal. Lock the bastard up!
I would think it to be more like 80 when he gets out.

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Old 08-24-2006, 05:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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99 C280 saved my family

My wife was stopped and was hit from behind. the truck was going 50-70 MPH. Two days ago we bought her a replacement car. A 2002 S500.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Really, there isn't any car that could have helped that.
That's right, it's physics pure and simple. Physics for one moment harnessed by some f-ing idiot.
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